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Once again surrounded by communists

Started by lordmetroid, May 03, 2007, 10:41 AM NHFT

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lordmetroid

Because I don't have a job yet the government agency have decided that they are going to bribe me with some bloodmoney in return for participating in one of their government programs containg special "activity"-classes for my own good. I have to admit that the classes are kind of nice for the sole reason that I get to meet new people and seek jobs in ways I normally wouldn't(I called a company PC Games production company in Denmark today for example). The class are set-up be our benevolent government bureaucrat to avoid people without a work for a couple of month to avoid apathy in their job seeking. However, I find myself writing doodles for the majority of the time and also and to my suprise so far apperently politics is a part of these classes as well  ::). In fact, the coordinators are speaking of politics quite frequently.

I have probed a little bit to get a sense of what kind of philosophy the coordinators subscribe to, not very hard at all as they are more than happy to speak about politics and it is very obvious. They are communists, shocking, I know...  ;D

One of the coordinators the female, finds so much distress in the many cuts of fundings the agency of employement have recieved since the new buregrois block of parties got their hands on the gun and she is really up and diddly in frustration that they don't get money for all the great programs for unemployed the agency of employement previously provided. She is also the one person most concerned about helping us out with how to get a hold of the money we are apperently entitled to through the government for attending the class.

The other coordinator the male, had a thural walkthrough today about why government need to provide services and only the government could provide such essential and vital services such as schooling, healthcare and other expensive programs due to the high price that would otherwise exist. We also talked about salaries for government employees(Specially prime minister) and salaries that private companies CEO's have.

So I have been feeding small pieces of counter-propaganda whenever the topic comes up, small bits and pieces because I am surrounded by communists after all and starting to preach and become all confrontational will just not work. But today I was really up and about it because we got into taxes. I had a really hard time to strain myself from start a discussion on this topic. I stated multiple times out loud that I can't get into philosophy because I would get way to engulfed in it and enter crazy preaching mode if I allowed myself to get enthusiastic about it. Even though I couldn't help but sneaking in some subtle statements about what he found so beautiful. Nothing obvious just pointing out some flaws...

I know that if I would get all upity into the discussion I would make meatloaf of my coordinators argument by just asking questions and providing the reality and facts behind the fiction. I am hardly illiterate as I have been studying nonstop 24/7 for more than half a year topics such as moral philosophy, the reality of society, austrian economics, theory of law, different system of law, history, the concept of liberty and have extensive knowledge and experience of academical hard to understand topics. But because I as an iconoclast would get everyone attending the class to hate me for ripping their delusions of reality apart something I know by experience that it is very psychologicaly burdensome I just can't allow myself to enter into such discussion. It just isn't worth alienating me from potential friends to enlighten Sweden. Furthermore I would unsadle the "authority figure", the coordinator from his high horses and strip all of his authority away from him. putting me into a very vurnable situation as I wouldn't want a person holding angst against me for 6 more weeks. If I would get involved in the discussion I can't loose it... The argument for liberty speaks themselves for at the end of the day violent agression is immoral, the outcome of violence can be shown very easy for every government program and the reality and truth of what government is is unrefutable and it is a really gross reality.

So yeah I felt the adrenaline today but my audience isn't ready to hear the facts. Really frustrating and I know that in New Hampshire I wouldn't be alone and on my own preaching the virtues of liberty. Makes me want to move sooner rather than later but yet the police state that exists in USA makes me afraid to move so I am going to wait and see if the country turns into a hell hole first.

error

The country will certainly turn into a hell hole without you here!

CNHT

I have a question for you lordmetroid:

Does this agency REQUIRE you to go through them for a job or are you just doing it because they exist?
Do you (if you want to tell) collect any sort of compensation right now from the government such as unemployment benefits?
What kinds of jobs are you looking for?

Just curious about how the system works over there.

lordmetroid

If I had been a partitioner of an unemployement insurance I would have been obligated to do as the agency tells me and hence be required to be at this program in order to get the entitled money such is the regulation from the state. However I am not, so I have no hooks and strings attached to me. I did sign a bill of exchange of money from my the assumed bond I have at the departement of finance to the contractors which holds the daily full-time(8 hours/day) classes though.

I do get about $20 per day from the state's aquired bloodmoney for being there which is welcomed though wickedly corrupt as I don't have more than $20 on me and charity is as far as I know non-existent in Sweden or at least where I live. But as I keep saying, there is no need to try and save the Swedes from their own wishes to live in a violent slave society. Save myself as Sweden is way to far gone and will only change with a collapse and bankrupcy of the state itself, though I doubt even such event will be enough for the Swedes to figure it all out after a century of pure red socialism and the oldest state school system in the world I wouldn't bet on it happening the nearest century.

CNHT

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Quote from: error on May 03, 2007, 02:04 PM NHFT
The country will certainly turn into a hell hole without you here!


Looks like it already has:

http://www.thelocal.se/7305/20070514/

Religion was good for something, but since socialistic societies spurn religion in favor of human secularism, they destroy all the good that goes with it, including volunteerism and charity.


Who pays for Sweden's free lunch?
Published: 14th May 2007 17:14 CET

Sweden's generous welfare system has served to break down the protestant work ethic, argues Captus's Nima Sanandaji.

Sweden has traditionally relied heavily on the strong protestant work ethic of its citizens. A cornerstone of the country's welfare system has been a population which has been reluctant to misuse the system. Although taxes have been high and government benefits generous, the strong work ethic has stopped people from taking advantage of the welfare state. Alas, this attitude has been largely abandoned. As time has passed, people have adapted to the system.

Dependence on state handouts is widespread amongst the adult generations. Today around 21-22 percent of the Swedish population in working age is being supported by one form government handout or another, up from around 11 percent in 1970 (as reported by Swedish Public Television 15th March 2005).

Many unemployed people are unwilling to take jobs that pay less than their former employment. The reason is that government compensation is often almost as high as their previous salaries; taking a job that pays less than their old one might very well mean lower income than the state benefit.

In a survey form the Swedish Enterprise Institute 70 percent of companies with 10-200 employees say that they interviewed who did not even want the jobs offered. This phenomenon is explained by the fact that people seek jobs that they are unwilling to take, only in order to convince public officials that they are actively seeking employment so they can continue collecting government handouts.

As widespread as government dependence is amongst adults, it might yet become worse amongst the new generation of Swedes.

In 2006 youth unemployment in Sweden was amonght the highest in the EU, fully 21.5 percent. Many young Swedes, in particular those with an immigrant background or from low income Swedish families, are becoming more and more used to the idea that it is acceptable to live off taxpayers' moneys. This is creating a phenomenon that can be described as a "free-lunch generation". A generation that does not clearly see the moral difference between earning something by hard work or receiving it from the state. The attitude is simply "anything that I want, I should have."

It is not uncommon for young Swedes to choose to live off government benefits during a period of their lives, either faking that they are seeking employment or somehow convincing government officials that they are on sick leave. The reason might simply be that they have found a lucrative black-sector job, or that they want to use the time to focus on a personal project, such as a music career.

All Swedes who go to higher education today receive a handout from the state. Perhaps this is to be expected in a society with widespread dependence on politicians, but the attitude among these young students is remarkable. As one of them wrote in a letter to a newspaper:

"Why should I only get this handout only the months that I attend school?" Explaining that he needs money for going out with his friends and buying clothes all year round, the young author concluded: "I don't have anything against working. But if the government doesn't make sure that I have a job, it is their responsibility to pay me the handouts all year around".

The system also routinely punishes those who work hard. If you are a college student and work part time parallel to your studies, your government loans will be reduced. And if you are unemployed, make sure not to take just any job. When a girl I know lost her job last year, she sought the first part time position that came along, although it was only a few hours.

While she had worked hard all her life and never relied on government support, she thought that it would only be fair to get some money to support her whilst she was seeking employment. But as it turns out, working a few hours disqualified her from receiving benefits for a period.

Later the same girl wanted to move to England. She explained that she believed that she would find it much easier to find work there compared to in Sweden. Was it possible for the unemployment agency to give her unemployment benefits when abroad? Well, yes, there is such a possibility. But only if she stayed in Sweden for a full period of 30 days as unemployed first. If she traveled to England to find work before the period had passed, there would be no support.

The Swedish welfare system is doing a good job at breaking the work ethic of the young. We have recently even seen a phenomenon where young people who couldn't find employment became classified as on early retirement. Permanently shutting out young adults from the working market might not make much sense, but the solution comes in handy for local unemployment agencies that can thus reduce the number of those classified as unemployed.

Societies are based on norms and values. Two norms that have so far played an imortant part in making Sweden function are the work ethic and individual responsibiliy. But norms are influenced by the economic realities of a system. When many low income families find that they might very well earn as much money by staying home from work, or even more money if they combine handouts with black market jobs, more and more people will take advantage of this. And among particularly the young, the norms concerning responsibility and work will adapt to this situation.

As the world renowned Swedish author Johan Norberg recently wrote in The National Interest (Summer 2006):

"The system of high taxes and generous welfare benefits worked for so long because the tradition of self-reliance was so strong. But mentalities have a tendency of changing when incentives change. The growth of taxes and benefits punished hard work and encouraged absenteeism.

"Immigrants and younger generations of Swedes have faced distorted incentives and have not developed the work ethic that was nurtured before the effects of the welfare state began to erode them. When others cheat the system and get away with it, suddenly you are considered a fool if you get up early every morning and work late."

The Swedish welfare system is effectively breaking down the very norms that make the society function. As people become more and more accustomed on living of government one question arises: who is ultimately going to draw the short straw and become forced to pay for the supposedly free lunch?

Nima Sanandaji is the president of the Swedish free market think tank Captus and publisher of the weekly online Swedish magazine Captus Tidning. He is also a PhD student at The Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm.



error

You could substitute France or almost anywhere in Western Europe, and the story would be about the same.