In Alabama, you're all terrorists

[cyberdoo78]

See this is something that has always scared me. If we the people find our government has perversed our authority we grant to it, and we can not get it to put itself back into line, what do we do? The founding fathers intent was to allow the people to overtake the government by force if needed to effect change. If the government creates laws who's purpose is to defend itself from such an eventuality, then what happens?

Anyone who disagrees with the government is by its very definition is labeled a terrorist(not the dictionary sense of the word but in the usage of word as used by the government) and then it can bring these laws to bare on the very people that granted it the power in the first place.

I live in fear of the day when the people rise up against the government and the outcome of that revolt. Not that I fear rising against my government, but of the outcome of such an action.

Something that was interesting to me in researching history is that the founding fathers, the originators of the US Constitution were a minority of people. It was through the media of the day they presented the logical argument for and against their ideas and the current form of their government. The problems that they faced was the vary same problems we today find ourselves in. Perhaps we ought to take a page from them and consider their cause and effect.

This leads me to believe that our goals ought to be shifted slightly. We can ill afford to have our limited numbers to be in the hands of our government. I am slowly coming to the realization that we can not change our government through force until our numbers are such that the government can not think to use force against us. Let us take the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers as a guide toward getting the people to think differently. To take by the minds of the people by influencing their opinions and gaining their support through logical argument.

I think this is what I shall do. I will create a persona, and through this persona I will pattern myself after the founding fathers.

[Kat Kanning]

Wow.  We're 'terrorists' in so many different ways.

[Russell Kanning]

I will probably do up an article about this for the paper. If anyone wants to write up a letter in response it would be appreciated.

I am sure homeland stupidity will be all over this one also. Thanks for the info shyfrog and error.

[Dan]

Gives me a new t-shirt idea:
  Libertarian
   Terrorist

[Dreepa]

Gives me a new t-shirt idea:
  Libertarian
   Terrorist

Hmmm and maybe a picture of one of the founding fathers?

I saw a tshirt (or was it a bumper sticker) that had a picture of Tom Jeff and Geo Washing that said 'Tax evaders and Gun nuts' or something like that.

[Tom Sawyer]

Here is one I had created... I have print quality files of all my designs.

[Dreepa]

That is exactly what I was thinking of......thanks


And it is a great sign!!!!!!!!!!!

[CNHT]

Just coincidentally, some poor professor got suspended for sending out something on email that had a speech by George Washington in it. I guess the words of the founding fathers are not allowed anymore! Talk about infringement of freedom of speech.

Professor could be fired over e-mail
Anne Ryman
The Arizona Republic
May. 8, 2007 12:00 AM

Professor could lose his job over controversial e-mails

A Maricopa Community Colleges professor could be fired after he sent an e-mail to district employees that contained a link to Pat Buchanan's Web site and a transcript of a George Washington Thanksgiving proclamation.

Math Professor Walter Kehowski, who has sent controversial e-mails in the past, was placed on paid leave from his job at Glendale Community College. A national free-speech group, Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, has taken up his cause and is asking the Maricopa County Community College District to exonerate him.

Greg Lukianoff, president of the Philadelphia-based group, said Kehowski is being targeted because of the e-mail, sent Nov. 22, with the 1789 proclamation and the link to the site of Buchanan, a conservative commentator and former presidential candidate. Lukianoff said five employees filed complaints because the Buchanan site criticized immigration policies.

"This case would be almost funny if it wasn't having such serious implications for the professor's life and livelihood," Lukianoff said.

Kehowski declined comment Monday.

He has angered some employees and students in the past with his e-mails, leading to debate over academic freedom and how far professors can go in expressing opinions.

In 2003, he e-mailed employees several Internet links that contained statements about Hispanics. Titles on the Web sites included, "Mexicans Think U.S. Belongs to Them!" and "Mexican Double Standard."

School administrators said his postings were abrasive and divisive, but said they could do little to prevent professors from expressing their views outside class.

This year, district Chancellor Rufus Glasper notified the professor March 9 that he intended to recommend to the governing board that Kehowski be dismissed. He said Kehowski's Nov. 22 e-mail violated the district's electronic communications policy, which prohibits using district e-mail for private or personal matters.

Glasper's letter says the professor continued to disregard district policies despite previous sanctions and directives. Kehowski was suspended without pay for five days in September 2005 for a similar violation.

A hearing date has been set for June 5 before a three-member faculty committee, which will listen to evidence and make a recommendation to the chancellor. Glasper then will make a recommendation to the governing board, which has the final say.
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Not like he was soliciting minors or something! What professor doesn't use outside reading sources, especially on the internet, to educate people?
These people were not in kindergarten for gosh sakes.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/0508freespeechprof0508-CP.html

[shyfrog]

Digg it
http://www.digg.com/politics/Libertarians_Are_Terrorists_Says_the_State_of_Alabama

[Russell Kanning]

The goals of terrorism are usually political, social, or religious in nature. Terrorists truly believe they are working toward a better world. They may want:

• To influence policy decisions
• Their own homeland or some type of independence
• Special privileges
• Exemption from rules
• To overthrow an existing government believing it to be non-representative,
  authoritarian, corrupt, or immoral

[cyberdoo78]

The goals of terrorism are usually political, social, or religious in nature. Terrorists truly believe they are working toward a better world. They may want:

• To influence policy decisions
• Their own homeland or some type of independence
• Special privileges
• Exemption from rules
• To overthrow an existing government believing it to be non-representative,
  authoritarian, corrupt, or immoral

Oddly enough I find my self agreeing with items 1, 2, and 5. Does that make me 3/5ths terrorist? For that matter, does not man himself procribe to the very nature of each of those points as a individual and as such, are not all people terrorists?

I'm confused on this issue of terrorism, who exactly is it we are suppose to be fighting again?

[toowm]

The goals of terrorism are usually political, social, or religious in nature. Terrorists truly believe they are working toward a better world. They may want:

• To influence policy decisions
• Their own homeland or some type of independence
• Special privileges
• Exemption from rules
• To overthrow an existing government believing it to be non-representative,
   authoritarian, corrupt, or immoral

However, terrorist use terror to advance their goals. Perhaps better names for your categories are:

• reformers
• rebels
• rent-seekers
• radicals
• revolutionaries

I got going on the rs and just had to continue...

[BaRbArIaN]

http://www.chrisbrunner.com/2007/05/09/libertarians-are-terrorists-says-the-state-of-alabama/

At least in Alabama,

"The Alabama Department of Homeland Security (ALDHS), established in June of 2003, has recently constructed a website that defines Domestic Terrorists as those who oppose gun control and a strong federal government."

Wonder if there is going to be a trend by the statists to close ranks for the big purges.

[CNHT]

The goals of terrorism are usually political, social, or religious in nature. Terrorists truly believe they are working toward a better world. They may want:

• To influence policy decisions - Good grief, IS THIS NOT the RIGHT of EVERY AMERICAN?
• Their own homeland or some type of independence - Since America has sold its sovereignty out to the UN, why yes.
• Special privileges - No unless they are socialists, which most of us here are definitely not...
• Exemption from rules - Well yes, if those rules were made out of the scope of what government is allowed to do..
• To overthrow an existing government believing it to be non-representative,
  authoritarian, corrupt, or immoral - A definite yes on this one, and the right to 'overthrow' doesn't mean the use of violence necessarily..

Proud to say I'm 4/5.. 

[Dan]

• I would like to minimize or eliminate policy decisions.
• All for Independence.
• I rule me, therefore, I get all sorts of privileges.
• I would like to exempt myself from all SORTS of crazy rules imposed on me.
• Well, I like my self-rulership to be authoritarian!  Hell, as I get older my body is already getting uppity with it's tyrannical ruler.

So, yes on all but the last one.