If Ed Brown dies then so do I.

[Jay Mick]

You have my word.

[Crocuta]

Gonna drink the kool-aid?

Cause if that's not your plan, I think you're heading for a quick confrontation with the forum owner.  I have a sneaky feeling that she's not in the mood for such talk today. 

[Jay Mick]

Ill take one for the team.

[YixilTesiphon]

It's your life, but I ask that you not do something that the rest of us will have to waste time explaining that we didn't endorse you doing it.

[Jay Mick]

Just making sure there are witnesses. You will find out if the goverment cares about 1 person.

[SAK]

Well, what we need is a lot of armed people on Ed's property, prepared to defend him.  I don't know if Ed has something setup or not -- I certainly would like to think so.

When they surround Ed and Elaine, we surround them.  It's simple.  The violent criminals and their security forces can then lay down their arms and no one has to get hurt.  If you want to put your energy and your courage to good use, get this going.  Get people to start open carrying EVERYWHERE.  We need to open carry, and we need to not let the corporate security forces disarm us.  If you're attacked, then defend yourself.

If you can do this, without going off like a loose cannon, then you will help us.  We don't need acts of violence, we need resolve and strength.  We can only win with TRUTH and LOVE.  It sounds corny, but it's how it works.

The TRUTH, the simple, universal truth, understood by all races, religions, creeds, cultures, and languages.  The TRUTH is plain and simple, straight from the HEART, our spirits.  The truth is that we are HERE, NOW.  We are what we are.  We are living, breathing, flesh and blood, sentient, natural men and women.  We are all born equal, PERIOD.  No other man or woman, group of men or women, or legal fictions created by men or women can tell you what to do, or what not to do.

You have the right to freedom, period.  You cannot be governed legitimately unless it is by consent.  It cannot be the consent of your mothers, fathers, great-grandfathers, or anyone else.  It has to be your consent.  If you've entered unknowingly into a contract with government, then the contract is null and void, it never was a real contract.  This is the case with Ed and Elaine.  They are not under attack by their own government, let's get that straight right now.  They are under attack by criminal strangers.  They are under attack by thieves in the night, dressed in black, with camouflage-painted faces, body armor, and heavy weaponry.

That is the simple truth.  Ed and Elaine are man and woman.  They are son and daughter of "God" or "Creator" if there is such a thing.  I'm agnostic, although I lean towards believing there is   Anyways, anything other than this TRUTH is simply BS.  Knowledge and facts are not TRUTH (even if they are accurate).  Truth transcends all intellect and understanding.  It comes from much deeper down.  It's immediately recognized for what it is.

Do we stand in TRUTH beside our brother and sister, Ed and Elaine?  Or do we give into the "matrix" that has been created around us, to control us.  Do we come together in truth, or separate ourselves with beliefs -- false understandings that divide us.  Truth and love is all that is needed.  Look to nature if you want to be natural.  Only domesticated animals put up with the BS that we put up with.  We are more than sheep -- well, at least I am.  Some people are not.  Animals run or fight back, period.  There is no compromise, there is no surrender, there is no compliance.

These violent criminals and thieves that are set to attack Ed and Elaine are predators.  Predators understand only one thing -- strength.  If a predator encounters prey that is too strong, the predator will go elsewhere.  The predator will not attack if it assess the strength of its intended prey as being too strong.  Ed and Elaine need us to be strong with them, and to provide them with the extra strength.  We just need a serious SHOW of strength.  Will we have it?

Is anyone willing to camp out and Ed and Elaine's (assuming that's OK with them).  Will anyone be willing to openly carry firearms in Plainfield and areas around there?  Will anyone carry firearms on Ed's property?  If we allow Ed and Elaine to fall, we may never see others like them rise.

[SAK]

Edit:  I read your reply after I posted.  Please don't refer to yourself as a "person" unless you believe yourself to be a corporation under corporate law (maritime admiralty law) and liable to all of these corporate policies, and under the jurisdiction of these maritime courts.  Laws are written for "persons," and courts are for "persons."  Living, breathing, flesh and blood, natural, sentient men and women are not under any of this BS.

It is time for everyone to hear the truth and wake up to what he or she really is.  We are beautiful creations, heart and soul, mind and body.  We are nothing less.  We are not slaves with whom to be dealt in force.

[Jay Mick]

Good point SAK, Please tell your local media that the goverment is aware of my death if they kill ed brown.

[Bald Eagle]

Well, I was really hoping that the S would hit the fan later, rather than right friggin' now,

but we need to start looking at this from ALL angles.

First, we need data.  How many govt. types were/are there and WHO are they?
Do they have legitimate jusridictional duties, or are they just along for the inter-agency hijinks?
Do Ed and Elaine have means of communication?  If not, we need to establish some ASAP.
Land lines, cell phones, radio, cable, satellite, modulated laser - whatever it takes.
What is the terrain like?  Do we have aerial photographs and topographical maps?
Can we get municipal maps with details like electric water and gas lines?
Do the Brown have a reliable water supply?

A 1-mile radius area has a perimeter of roughly 6 miles.  That means it's POROUS.

Read my other thread.

[S.Cochrane]

The only just objective in response to State incursions is organize better than we have, and this provacative event, and the confusion that followed, clearly shows that we are not well enough organized in terms of communication to face down this threat. While the sentiment, I assume, is genuine, it is not rational, and you will no one any good should you martyr yourself alone in a patriotic fervor in the event Ed Brown is murdered.

In my humble opinion, we have already suffered the deaths of far too many sacrificial lambs, and I do not wish to see Edward nor Elaine Brown's name added to the list of murdered in the name of American fascism, and certainly not with an adequate response prepared should such an event occur. If you so seek to die, then before you die, make certain your death counts for good, and does not aid the State, and the true powers behind the State, in their ultimate goals.

Our goal at this point in time is not to say our final prayers, but to purchase as much time through dissuasion of aggression as possible to continue to spread information on the fascistic corporatism in these United States, deprogram individuals of the belief in the myth of free market american capitalism. We need time to continue propegating the truth of the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service. In addition to this, it is imperative that we improve and and continue to decentralize our tactical communications network, but such discussions are not for public discussion.

This is not to say that you should shelve your protection, just don't go looking for, or even hoping for, a fight at this point in time. Moreover, it does these people here no good for you to make such claims publically. I guarantee you, it will come far sooner than you truly wish for it to.

[Jay Mick]

Someone please tell me when he dies. I cant watch the coverage with what is at stake.

[Atlas]

Someone please tell me when he dies. I cant watch the coverage with what is at stake.

You're very brave my friend, wish I had the cajones you have. Someone applaud this man, his Karma should be thru the roof.

[Jay Mick]

I will feel pretty good going out like this.

[Bald Eagle]

Are you going to bring anyone with you?

[Jay Mick]

No of course not.