NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL!

[FTL_Ian]

Do you at least agree the leeches (those only interested in the first four letters of freedom) are a problem?

Government and welfare is the problem.  Leeches are only a symptom.

[mvpel]

Good point.

Hence, "Close the Schools, Open the Borders."

[kola]

The plan for the creation of The North American Union is right on schedule.

Say goodbye to The Republic of the united states and everything that was once a part of it.

Thanks (sarcastic tone) to all the common folk for doing nothing and/or supporting the agenda.

There will be no turning back.

To all the ameriKans who support and welcome illegal immigrants, I request that you all open your homes to them. Feed them, provide beds for them to sleep in, give them money and find them under-the-table jobs and pay for their health insurance and schooling. Please learn their language (Spanish) as quick as possible because it will be the only spoken language of the NAU. I will no longer particpate in having my tax dollars used for such a purpose. 

My doors will be locked and the welcome mat will be replaced with "No Trespassing"

Kola

[lildog]

Good point.

Hence, "Close the Schools, Open the Borders."

Problem with that is many of those who come over the boarders if given citizenship that instance would merely vote for politicians who would give them all those things right back.

Just look at the influx of MA residents into NH.  They flee MA because it has become a socialist cesspool yet they turn around and start voting for the same things they fled from here in NH.

[Braddogg]

Just look at the influx of MA residents into NH.  They flee MA because it has become a socialist cesspool yet they turn around and start voting for the same things they fled from here in NH.

I hear that a lot; have there been surveys proving this?

[FTL_Ian]

Problem with that is many of those who come over the boarders if given citizenship that instance would merely vote for politicians who would give them all those things right back.

Just look at the influx of MA residents into NH.  They flee MA because it has become a socialist cesspool yet they turn around and start voting for the same things they fled from here in NH.

Great argument against government and voting!   

[lildog]

Just look at the influx of MA residents into NH.  They flee MA because it has become a socialist cesspool yet they turn around and start voting for the same things they fled from here in NH.

I hear that a lot; have there been surveys proving this?

In some cases they openly state it as their goal...

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=25

[Braddogg]

Just look at the influx of MA residents into NH.  They flee MA because it has become a socialist cesspool yet they turn around and start voting for the same things they fled from here in NH.

I hear that a lot; have there been surveys proving this?

In some cases they openly state it as their goal...

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=25

Hmm, did I miss something?  Where did it say someone was moving from MA to NH to escape the socialist state of MA to create a socialist state of NH?

[lildog]

In the case of that link they aren't moving to escape, they are moving around to spread their socialistic views.

[Braddogg]

In the case of that link they aren't moving to escape, they are moving around to spread their socialistic views.

Sorry, I still don't see it.  The guy who posted that lives in NY.  Help?

[LibertyBelle]

Error some benefits of being a US citizen are justified.

Initiating force on others is never justified.   

Besides that, there is no such thing as a US citizen.  Citizens owe a duty of allegiance to the government in return for protection services.  As the government has ruled time and time again that it does not have an obligation to protect, therefore there can be no citizenship. 

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Article 4,Sec.IV, US Constitution-mandate to protect States from invasion.

Further,the main purpose of our Government is to protect our individual rights.

Maybe you live under some other form of Government,I don't know,but this is the basis of the United States of America's government,along with the consent of the governed,meaning we,the people,retain all of our inalienable rights and the government is a servant,not a master.

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In addition, no one ever was given the opportunity to consent to such an agreement in the first place, effectively rendering the concept null and void.

[LibertyBelle]

Error some benefits of being a US citizen are justified.

Initiating force on others is never justified.   

Besides that, there is no such thing as a US citizen.  Citizens owe a duty of allegiance to the government in return for protection services. 

Nonsense! You have it all inside out and upside down. Citizens empower the Government. Citizens owe the government nothing. Government is empowered by the consent of the governed ie the citizens. We owe the "govenment" nothing. We ARE the government.






As the government has ruled time and time again that it does not have an obligation to protect, therefore there can be no citizenship.  In addition, no one ever was given the opportunity to consent to such an agreement in the first place, effectively rendering the concept null and void.

[LibertyBelle]

For the last time, I don't care about, nor am I afraid of, "La Raza." Seriously, let them come in.

It's hard for me to understand your position. La Raza means "the race". I don't understand why you would support a group that favors only one race. I don't understand why you feel money should be taken from me and my family to support this group in the form of tax dollars.

Can you explain?

[lowen]

For the last time, I don't care about, nor am I afraid of, "La Raza." Seriously, let them come in.

It's hard for me to understand your position. La Raza means "the race". I don't understand why you would support a group that favors only one race. I don't understand why you feel money should be taken from me and my family to support this group in the form of tax dollars.

Can you explain?

Absolutely. It's simple: I never said I favored them, and I certainly never said I want your tax dollars (why are you paying taxes anyway? I don't) to be spent on them. What I'm saying is that anyone should be allowed to cross any borders. Keeping people out is ridiculous, and it costs more taxpayer dollars to do so than to let them in. A person shouldn't be kept out for what he believes. For every Mexican-born person that believes in the master mexican race, there are two American-born persons that believe in a master mexican race or white race or any 'race' you can imagine. Supporting border control is supporting police states and nationalism (both are very bad, and often go hand-in-hand).

Honestly, I don't know how you came to your conclusions. The quote that you question of me even states "I don't care about 'La Raza'," so how can you say I support them? Now, if you're one of those right-wing spin machines that takes 'I support the equal rights of all men and women' to mean 'I support terrorism and all other evil ideologies,' then I can understand your conclusion and kindly set you to ignore. But I'm willing to accept that this was a simple missunderstanding. Can you explain?