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what dreams do you have of things we might be able to do by 2010?

Started by Dave Ridley, June 19, 2007, 04:13 PM NHFT

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Dave Ridley

Here are some dreams I have, of things we will hopefully be able to do in New Hampshire by the year 2010.

- Dream up ideas for political cartoons and have one of our members draw them.  My idea right now is a picture of Stephen Monier saying something about keeping open lines of communication with the Browns.  In the background would be one of his guys cutting their phone line LOL.

- Creating our own militia-expert institution like the Southern Poverty Law Center except neutral or pro-militia. 

What are your dreams?

Dreepa


d_goddard

Realistically, by 2010, we can be the first-ever US State with a significant "small-l" libertarian minority of the House and Senate.

Results:
* Impossible to pass any new taxes (47% R + 6% L oppose = bill fails)
* Impossible to create any new bureaucracies, licensing schemes, or regulatory agencies
* Impossible to create any new "get tough on drugs/crime" laws (47% D + 6% L oppose = bill fails)

A bunch of things depend on who is Governor, and what he's willing not to veto. Every single session from then outward, we can expect:
* FIJA bill lands on the Governor's desk
* Full MJ decrim bill lands on Governor's desk
* School choice (vouchers, or equivalent) lands on Governor's desk
* Getting the State out of marriage lands on Governor's desk
* Many laws explicitly limiting the allowable actions of government agents and bureaucracies

All of the above is pretty much a given, if we can get 10-15 additional "B+" or above elected in 2008, and another 20-30 such in 2010. Very do-able if 100 or so Porcs move to districts currently held by "C" or "D" Reps, and start doing local volunteer work immediately upon move-in. (Even better if some "F" or "CT" can be replaced, but realistically those tend to be in places like Keene and Concord where the voting population is socialist-leaning. If the education push from FreeKeene, FTL, etc can help change that, we'll do all the better!)

Of course, a tipping-point like the above would act as a powerful magnet once these pro-liberty measures start actually passing one or the other chamber, and so making news. As I see it, getting to the above point pretty much guarantees many thousands of liberty-lovers migrating to NH by 2012, at which point major reductions become possible, and libertarians become the majority of the legislature. The typical NH residents will start realizing that they don't need threats of force to control their neighbors except in the most extreme circumstances (ie, for murder, rape, theft -- not gambling, eating habits, or their childrens' education)


Kat Kanning

I just want to live my life without asking the gov't for permission for every damned thing.

d_goddard

Quote from: Kat Kanning on June 19, 2007, 08:40 PM NHFT
I just want to live my life without asking the gov't for permission for every damned thing.
... or being threatened by them all the time.


They built the Leviathan one small piece at a time, over a period of 5 or 6 generations.
Realistically, deconstructing it peacefully will take a generation or two.

guy

Big picture... energy independence.  Impossible by 2010, but hopefully there will be major steps toward that goal by then.

Dreepa

Quote from: guy on June 19, 2007, 09:03 PM NHFT
Big picture... energy independence.  Impossible by 2010, but hopefully there will be major steps toward that goal by then.
For you or for NH or for the country?

guy

Quote from: Dreepa on June 19, 2007, 09:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: guy on June 19, 2007, 09:03 PM NHFT
Big picture... energy independence.  Impossible by 2010, but hopefully there will be major steps toward that goal by then.
For you or for NH or for the country?


Yes, in that order.

Dreepa

Quote from: guy on June 19, 2007, 09:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: Dreepa on June 19, 2007, 09:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: guy on June 19, 2007, 09:03 PM NHFT
Big picture... energy independence.  Impossible by 2010, but hopefully there will be major steps toward that goal by then.
For you or for NH or for the country?


Yes, in that order.
:)

E-ville

Quote from: guy on June 19, 2007, 09:03 PM NHFT
Big picture... energy independence.  Impossible by 2010, but hopefully there will be major steps toward that goal by then.

What do you mean, the Browns are doing it right now :)  I know sick and funny at the same time..

Actually I want to be in NH by 2010.. and then let the games begin!

E-ville

firecracker joe

Free staters taking over with 20,000+ asap or before 2010  :P

LiveFree

Dada, building an "institution" with expertise on militia matters wouldn't be all that hard, dpending on your definition of "institution" and what sort of informaion you want.  SPLC tries to keep track of groups, and is essentially a private spy agency that basically sucks at what they do.  If you just want an information clearing house that doesn't try to track groups or members, there are already quite a few.  If you want a public advocacy group though, that would be much more original.

money dollars


LFoD

Quote from: DadaOrwell on June 19, 2007, 04:13 PM NHFTWhat are your dreams?

More bills with this wording...

I. The general court finds that the public policy established by Congress in the XYZ Act of 20XX, Public Law XYZ, is contrary and repugnant to Articles 1 through 10 of the New Hampshire constitution as well as Amendments 4 though 10 of the Constitution for the United States of America. Therefore, the state of New Hampshire shall not participate in any XYZ program pursuant to the XYZ Act of 20XX or in any XYZ system that may follow therefrom.

Replace XYZ with unpatriot act, gun bans/registrations, information reporting, etc etc etc...

lildog

By 2010 I'd like to see the over all discussions of the local, state and federal government change from how many more new government services, laws etc should be pushed for to instead be how many services, laws, taxes etc should be done away with.  Just changing the over all tone of conversation from being pro adding government to that of doing away with government I think in and of itself to be a HUGE step even if it takes another couple years to actually agree what and where to cut and do away with.