"Zeitgeist"--the Movie

[Russell Kanning]

This film has no credibility as far as I'm concerned, and I will be not be recommending it to anyone.

Ah, someone gets it! +1

I will be watching the film later today probably, but hopefully I will not be thinking like Ruger Mason, but I have a feeling I will. Many people loved that davinci code thing .... I thought it was silly, when I saw the movie.

Religions are frauds .... I agree with those that have said that earlier.

[Russell Kanning]

Maybe I've misunderstood the elementary astrology I've heard. I just know I've heard people say things like Jesus was actually born on January 5th

I think the best guess is january 3rd or 4th in BC3. I don't know how that relates to the movie yet.
Like Friday said ... there have been a lot of calendar changes.
They even changed the whole thing to fit their state run religion of christianity ... and you non-christian suckers still use it. I bet you use government time instead of NHFT for your time of day too.

Someone mentioned that the new testament writers wrote in 100AD or so .... the first books were written soon after Christ was killed (like "James" as soon as 44ad on up to 70ad) but the gospels came later as people forgot the events and guys wrote it down for their info (50-90ad with "Mark" early and "John" coming at the end). John was the only one that the government/organized religion didn't kill ... he was a "detainee" on an island.

http://www.errantskeptics.org/DatingNT.htm

[Russell Kanning]

Heck, you won't be able to tear your eyes off it!

I could barely force myself to watch 12 minutes' worth before giving up. Sllooooooowwwwww....

I thought all you prison guards could slow your minds down to handle "prison time".

[Insurgent]

Heck, you won't be able to tear your eyes off it!

I could barely force myself to watch 12 minutes' worth before giving up. Sllooooooowwwwww....

I thought all you prison guards could slow your minds down to handle "prison time".

[jaqeboy]

Beware, Russell, Part 1 is kind of "Christianity Truth" movement stuff. I guess what I have learned from my study is that whether Jesus existed or not, the creators and promoters of "the Church", esp starting with Paul and continuing through Justin Martyr and Irenaeus and other bishops, were creating an ideological structure, a system of beliefs, and an organizational structure which was turned into a political powerhouse when sanctioned by Constantine and went on to have an over-arching power over European/Mediterranean society (and along the way created the Dark Ages, the Inquisition, etc.).

and, seemingly ironically, I don't believe, like you have stated, that religions are frauds by their nature, but rather they are organizations seeking to find truths and disseminate them to their fellows and should be judged individually. There seem to be some temptations, though, and very many seem to become corrupted. This is the challenge we face in forming any new religious "organizations." Many conclude that organizations themselves are what inherently corrupts the belief systems called your "religion."

Ie, there are 2 uses of the word here, your "religion" is "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith" . Your "Religion" is the organization that you belong to that you believe will assist you on your journey to find the "right" beliefs (or that you blindly follow because they seem to know what they are talking about) [my definition here].

Zeitgeist, in Part I, slams "Religion" (the Christian Church) and at the end of the presentation, suggests some pieces of wisdom that you could consider adopting into your "religion" (or your personal ethos - use your choice of words here).

[Insurgent]

This film has no credibility as far as I'm concerned, and I will be not be recommending it to anyone.

Ah, someone gets it! +1

I will be watching the film later today probably, but hopefully I will not be thinking like Ruger Mason, but I have a feeling I will. Many people loved that davinci code thing .... I thought it was silly, when I saw the movie.

Religions are frauds .... I agree with those that have said that earlier.

I'm genuinely curious to hear your impressions, Russell; your absence in the discussion has been conspicuous. I wondered if you had watched it but kept quiet about it. There is one short bit in the beginning with George Carlin which Christians will probably find pretty offensive, FYI. I kind of wish the film maker hadn't of put that in there. The rest, I think you'll find very engaging 

[CNHT]

I find it extremely interesting that many of the problems in the world today are created, antagonized, and made possible by organized religion.

Yeah freedom of religion, like guns, sometimes causes bad things to happen, and we can't have that, so therefore religion should be discouraged or even outlawed wherever possible. (tongue in cheek)

I mean, religion has even caused people to NOT VOTE!

[jaqeboy]

I mean, religion has even caused people to NOT VOTE!

Thanks for the recognition 

[CNHT]

I mean, religion has even caused people to NOT VOTE!

Thanks for the recognition 

Wasn't talking about you in particular, as I noticed you do involve yourself in some political activities like this impeachment stuff, which is sort of like reverse voting is it not?

Seems to me if more people voted, they could have helped keep that person out in the first place. Impeachment of one person who is a mere figurehead in a completely corrupt system, has no real value in changing anything and as such is a waste of time in my opinion.

[jaqeboy]

I mean, religion has even caused people to NOT VOTE!

Thanks for the recognition 

Wasn't talking about you in particular, as I noticed you do involve yourself in some political activities like this impeachment stuff, which is sort of like reverse voting is it not?

Seems to me if more people voted, they could have helped keep that person out in the first place. Impeachment of one person who is a mere figurehead in a completely corrupt system, has no real value in changing anything and as such is a waste of time in my opinion.

OK, then, can we repeal the whole completely corrupt system? Please inform me of the meeting date and time and I'll come and VOTE!

[jaqeboy]

Oops, okay, Insurgent - Impeachment discussion moved to appropriate thread 

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9872.0

[Insurgent]

Oops, okay, Insurgent - Impeachment discussion moved to appropriate thread 

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9872.0

[CNHT]

OK, then, can we repeal the whole completely corrupt system? Please inform me of the meeting date and time and I'll come and VOTE!

Wish we could but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

We got to this point incrementally, thus we shall have to get away from this point incrementally.

I do see progress though -- the young people today are not going to take much of this globalism kumbaya bullshit/world government/global socialism/warming nonsense.

The rest will wake up long after it's expedient to do anything about it.

[jaqeboy]

OK, then, can we repeal the whole completely corrupt system? Please inform me of the meeting date and time and I'll come and VOTE!

Wish we could but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

We got to this point incrementally, thus we shall have to get away from this point incrementally.

OK, back to impeachment then - other thread ==> http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9872.0

[Dreepa]

Maybe I've misunderstood the elementary astrology I've heard. I just know I've heard people say things like Jesus was actually born on January 5th

I think the best guess is january 3rd or 4th in BC3.

I heard it was in the April timeframe.