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Started by RattyDog, July 09, 2007, 10:57 AM NHFT

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d_goddard

IN the two-and-a-half years I've been in NH, I've seen a small but dedicated group of people willing to call their Reps:
defeat a smoking ban (last year, before the Socialist Takeover of '08)
tell the Feds to go blow donkey dicks in hell with their damn Real-ID
defeat gun regulation
defeat mandatory seat belts
come within spitting distance (7 votes out of 400!) of passing medical marijuana
... and more

You live in the one State in the Union where calling your Reps makes a damn bit of difference.
Use it.

error

Boulder's turned into a socialist "paradise," so I've heard.

Dreepa

Quote from: RattyDog on July 10, 2007, 01:35 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on July 10, 2007, 12:51 PM NHFT
IN the two-and-a-half years I've been in NH, I've seen a small but dedicated group of people willing to call their Reps:
defeat a smoking ban (last year, before the Socialist Takeover of '08)
tell the Feds to go blow donkey dicks in hell with their damn Real-ID
defeat gun regulation
defeat mandatory seat belts
come within spitting distance (7 votes out of 400!) of passing medical marijuana
... and more

You live in the one State in the Union where calling your Reps makes a damn bit of difference.
Use it.

Wait wait wait...I thought the smoking ban was going into effect?? I was told that it had been passed?? I'

Last year.  Not this year.  This year it passed.

error

And in 2009 we're going to try to get rid of it.

Dreepa

I read something that the people from MA... lean more to the 'right'.
It is the people from NJ, NY, ME, and CT that are the lefties.

d_goddard

The smoking ban has nothing to do with the refugees from Mass.
We have a smoking ban because the 40% of Undeclared/Independent NH voters overwhelmingly expressed their disgust for the Iraq war... by voting straight-ticket DEMOCRAT.

That means we got Democrat State Reps and Democrat State Senators, whose legislative purview has NOTHING to do with Federal foreign policy, Federal immigration policy, or anything else Federal.

The majority of NH State Republicans -- especially in the House of Representatives -- are libertarian-leaning. They are not like the Republicans in Washington, DC.

You can get a good idea of which Reps are pro-freedom and which are authoritarian big-government taxers here:
http://www.nhliberty.org/2007_liberty_rating

Dreepa

Quote from: d_goddard on July 10, 2007, 02:06 PM NHFT

The majority of NH State Republicans -- especially in the House of Representatives -- are libertarian-leaning. They are not like the Republicans in Washington, DC.

except when it comes to :weed:

error

Yes, and then the Demoncrats got rid of straight ticket voting! What were they thinking? They're pissing off so many people they have virtually no chance of keeping the government in 2008, and removing straight ticket voting just ensures it.

d_goddard

Quote from: Dreepa on July 10, 2007, 02:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on July 10, 2007, 02:06 PM NHFT

The majority of NH State Republicans -- especially in the House of Representatives -- are libertarian-leaning. They are not like the Republicans in Washington, DC.

except when it comes to :weed:

You might be surprised, a lot of them voted on "our" side.
Detailed data is at:
http://www.nhliberty.org/files/2007%20House%20Liberty%20Ratings.xls

Republicans who voted in favor of medical marijuana, and their NHLA letter grade:
Barry, Richard   A+
Bedrick, Jason   A
Brown, Julie   C
Crane, Elenore Casey   B
DiFruscia, Anthony   D+
Dokmo, Cynthia   C
Emiro, Frank   C+
Fletcher, Richard   B+
Francoeur, Bea   B+
Gionet, Edmond   B
Guthrie, Joseph   A
Holden, Randolph   C+
Ingbretson, Paul   A
Lockwood, Priscilla   B
Manney, Pamela   B+
McRae, Karen   A
Ober, Russell   A
Reagan, John   A
Renzullo, Andrew   B+
Sorg, Gregory   A
Soucy, Connie   A
Vaillancourt, Steve   B+
Waterhouse, Kevin   A
Wells, Roger   C


Democrats who voted against medical marijuana, and their NHLA letter grade:
Abbott, Dennis   F
Berube, Roger   F
Bridgham, Robert   F
Brown, George   Inc
Buco, Thomas   F
Butynski, William   F
Casey, Kimberley   D
Cote, David   F
Cunningham, Howard   F
Daler, Jennifer   F
Davis, Frank   F
DeStefano, Stephen   F
Estes, Carole   F
Forest, Armand   D+
Foster, Linda   F
Gagnon, Raymond   D
Goley, Jeffrey   D
Gorman, Mary   D+
Gottling, Suzanne   F
Hamm, Christine   D
Hammond, Jill   F
Harding, A Laurie   F
Hatch, William   F
Houde, Matthew   F
Howard, Doreen   F
Hutz, Sarah   D+
Irwin, Anne-Marie   F
Kelley, John   D
Knowles, John   F
Knowles, Mary Ann   F
Kopka, Angeline   F
Lerandeau, Alfred   F
Marshall, Seth   F
Matarazzo, Anthony   CT
McLeod, Martha   F
McMahon, Patricia   CT
Mickelonis, Shawn   Inc
Miller, Joseph   F
Moore, Bennett   D
Movsesian, Lori   F
Nielsen, Ellen   F
O'Neil, James   F
Pantelakos, Laura   F
Parkhurst, Henry   D+
Pilotte, Maurice   CT
Reardon, Tara   F
Rollo, Deanna   D
Rollo, Michael   F
Rosenwald, Cindy   F
Rous, Emma   CT
Russell, Trinka   F
Schulze, Joan   F
Smith, David   D
Smith, Marjorie   CT
Solomon, Peter   D
Spratt, Stephen   F
Vachon, Dennis   D
Wall, Janet   F
Wallner, Mary   F
Webb, Leigh   F
Wood, Jane   Inc


I'm not saying Republicans are all that great, I'm just saying that, taken as a group, they respect a lot more of your freedoms than the Dems do. I believe it is quite possible to move most of the "C"/"C+" Republicans into the "B/B+" grade, if there is pressure from voters and their party "leaders" to do so.
On the Democrat side... you'd be luck to move them from "F" to "D". They're still authoritarian.


error

Quote from: RattyDog on July 10, 2007, 03:26 PM NHFT
I wish more people had the information we have here. Would that help?

Absolutely! Tell everyone you know. :)

ny2nh

Quote from: malevil on July 10, 2007, 07:47 AM NHFTI didn't say my story was about government intrusiveness, but the overall intrusiveness of others (government being the biggest culprit) -- whoever they may be -- into our personal lives.  I was just making the point that sometimes "minor" encounters like my story and Rattydog's get you thinking and consequently get you off your ass to do something about it...And I will get in the habit of telling a business what to do if they're screwing with my rights and blaming it on fictitious laws.   :P

Not selling something to someone is not intrusive in any way. Annoying, yes, but there is nothing intrusive about it. Walmart isn't screwing with your rights - don't you think they have a right to have their own company policies? The clerk you spoke with might just not have had a clue about why they didn't sell to under 18......maybe they were from another state where it was illegal....who knows.

I agree that you had a very reasonable frustration with Walmart - but it's not intrusiveness or screwing with your rights.

ny2nh

Quote from: Dreepa on July 10, 2007, 02:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: d_goddard on July 10, 2007, 02:06 PM NHFT

The majority of NH State Republicans -- especially in the House of Representatives -- are libertarian-leaning. They are not like the Republicans in Washington, DC.

except when it comes to :weed:

Many just need to be educated on the issue. That means building relationships with them so that they listen to what you have to say and actual consider your point.

KBCraig

Do they have "rabies clinics" in NH? Those are common in this region. They usually take place at the local fire station, school, or community center. People show up with their dogs, and the vet gives rabies vaccinations at a reduced price (typically $10 or so). You get the tag and certificate and go on your merry way. Since it's not (necessarily) your regular vet, you can give whatever information you'd like to make up, and not have it appear in his records.

ny2nh

Quote from: RattyDog on July 10, 2007, 02:18 PM NHFTCount me in as one of the dummy heads who did just that. I didn't know what to do....all I knew was I didn't want to support anyone who supported the war. I am so sick of this war and the money it costs...I'm so so sick of it. I find it outrageous and abusive.

Hey, Dummy Head -

The state legislature has nothing to do with the war in Iraq. : )

ny2nh

Quote from: KBCraig on July 10, 2007, 05:42 PM NHFT
Do they have "rabies clinics" in NH? Those are common in this region. They usually take place at the local fire station, school, or community center. People show up with their dogs, and the vet gives rabies vaccinations at a reduced price (typically $10 or so). You get the tag and certificate and go on your merry way. Since it's not (necessarily) your regular vet, you can give whatever information you'd like to make up, and not have it appear in his records.

Yes, there are rabies clinics and I think you could give them whatever info you wanted....but you could do that at any vet's office, too.

If anyone lives in the Derry area - the groomer downstairs from my shop has 3 shot clinics (Mar, Apr & May).  It's a great deal.