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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2007, 12:35 PM NHFT »
Maybe I just missed it.... but what exactly were they charged with?

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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2007, 12:36 PM NHFT »
Maybe I just missed it.... but what exactly were they charged with?

Wait, I'm sure Kat will scan the ticket in and post a picture of it.

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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2007, 12:40 PM NHFT »
They were ready for them.  Therrian was there.  The feds used nhfree.com to identify Lauren. 
This is the first time I have gotten close to Therrian.  As easy as it can be to villify him as completely evil, I don't think he is.  He is another in a long line of people making a lot of money working for the gov't that doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong.  When Russell took his picture as he was returning Kat's Taxes are Theft, Therrian joked that he can't be seen holding that sign. 
I do not believe the feds feels threatened by us, which is good.  We waved everytime a fed or keene police passed by. 
Dr. King would routinely emphasize that he didn't want to 'win' at the expense of his white brethren.  Our parrallel is that even as they harrass , ticket, and arrest us, we will always have to coexist with them, so it is prudent not to make them our 'enemy'.  At the same time, those ultimately responsible for Daves', Kats', and Laurens' arrests or tickets or summons are Law EnForcers,  who can choose not to do those things anytime they want to. 
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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2007, 12:42 PM NHFT »
Maybe I just missed it.... but what exactly were they charged with?

I am not certain but I am going to guess distributing handbills
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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2007, 12:54 PM NHFT »
trespassing or something, i don't actually remember.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2007, 12:56 PM NHFT »
Tag team camera men, ahhh, life is good.   ;D
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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2007, 12:57 PM NHFT »
Disorderly conduct and loitering, failure to obey a lawful order.

I went upstairs when I saw Therrien coming so he wouldn't prevent me from going into the building.  I sat down on some seats in the IRS office.  The woman there told me I'd have to leave.  Therrien came up huffing after me.  Lauren and Ian came up, too.  They didn't let Ian keep filming and he had to take the camera outside.  They let him observe later as press.  Therrien gave me a minute to leave before he was going to cite me.  They were having trouble writing the ticket cause I wouldn't give my ssn or birthdate, so the guy was disturbed by having blanks in his form.  They got the point where they wanted Lauren to take off the mask, she didn't comply, so the dyke officer ordered Lauren to put her hands on the counter.  She didn't so they cuffed Lauren.  Dyke lady was amped for a fight.  Therrien told them not to hurt her.  She wouldn't walk out, so they had to carry her.  The IRS looked like she was about to cry at one point.  She had her grandson at work, who was asking, " Grandma, what are the police doing?"  I couldn't hear her reply.  Later I told the guy who helped carry Lauren that if he complained about Lauren hurting his back, we'd have to make serious fun of him.  They dealt with Lauren for a long time while I sat there with my sign.  Eventually Therrien said that if I didn't give my ssn and dob, they'd have to arrest me.  They took me out the back of the post office.  The guy was going to turn the wrong way to get to the police station, so I told him where it was, but he didn't want to believe me.   They spent a long time at the police station trying to figure out who Lauren was.  Finally they looked on nhfree.com and found Lauren was arrested in New London and got her info from the NL police.  Dyke chick told me to take off my shoes, but I didn't want to, so she took them off.  I told her she seemed really angry and uptight, which she denied.  They eventually decided to just cite us and let us go.  I think we have two $125 fines each.  I have no intention of paying or showing up in court voluntarily.

At various times, Therrien lectured me about wasting his time on petty stuff while he needed to be out hunting terrorists.  They chose to go after Dave, weeks after he left a flyer in the IRS.  It's not like Dave forced them to do anything.  And the stuff today wouldn't have happened but for Dave's imprisonment.

Oh yeah, I left a stack of flyers in the IRS office when they weren't looking.
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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2007, 01:10 PM NHFT »
At various times, Therrien lectured me about wasting his time on petty stuff while he needed to be out hunting terrorists.

You weren't wasting his time. He was wasting his time. He chose to go in there and arrest the two of you instead of going out hunting terrorists at Dunkin Donuts.

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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2007, 01:12 PM NHFT »
Disorderly conduct and loitering, failure to obey a lawful order.
It's all always up to you, of course. And of course I wasn't there and so I don't know the specifics.
But... if you should wish to neutralize their authority...

I would bet a decent lawyer could get these charges thrown out.
"disorderly conduct" is something I've never seen you engage in, and Lauren only did when severely provoked (in that infamous stairwell)
"failure to obey a lawful order" has all kinds of fun opportunities for defense. Which specific orders? Was the defendant given the opportunity to obey? Can the prosecution enumerate the statutes that make those orders lawful? Do those statutes survive Constitutional scrutiny? ... and so on...

What I'm getting at is, if their charges against you were overturned, you could wind up with basically carte blanche (or if you prefer a "don't go to jail" card) allowing you, and anybody else to petition against the IRS in the way which you are now doing.

« Last Edit: July 19, 2007, 01:15 PM NHFT by d_goddard »

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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2007, 01:13 PM NHFT »
 ;D 8)


"Oh yeah, I left a stack of flyers in the IRS office when they weren't looking."


LOL.   You Ladies are so brave, glad you are out of their clutches .
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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2007, 01:19 PM NHFT »
 :protest:   FREE DAVE RIDLEY
 >:(  FREE LAUREN CANARIO
 >:(  FREE KAT KANNING

Two out, and one to go. 
« Last Edit: July 19, 2007, 01:21 PM NHFT by David »
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Re: Lauren Canrio arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2007, 01:34 PM NHFT »
Oh yeah, I left a stack of flyers in the IRS office when they weren't looking.

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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2007, 01:45 PM NHFT »
I think this is what is called "blowback"
Perhaps if they stopped stealing people's property, arresting them, and destroying lives, they wouldn't have dangerous leaflet-terrorists on their hands. *shrugs*

There oughtta be law! (so richard can have some new fanfic to read)

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[edit] I'm grateful it hasn't come to this ... oh crap "Godwin's Law". I guess that comparison isn't valid now *pouts*
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Re: Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2007, 02:35 PM NHFT »
I think this is what is called "blowback"
Perhaps if they stopped stealing people's property, arresting them, and destroying lives, they wouldn't have dangerous leaflet-terrorists on their hands. *shrugs*

When asked if I had any dangerous items on me, I answered that I had two very dangerous flyers in my pocket.  The guy gave me this blank stare then said Oh, sarcasm.
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