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Lauren Canario arrested and possibly Kat also

Started by Kat Kanning, July 18, 2007, 07:19 AM NHFT

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Kat Kanning

Do these tickets count if they spelled my name wrong?  ::)

lildog

Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 19, 2007, 12:57 PM NHFTAt various times, Therrien lectured me about wasting his time on petty stuff while he needed to be out hunting terrorists.

You should have asked him how many he's caught so far.

error

Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 19, 2007, 02:41 PM NHFT
Do these tickets count if they spelled my name wrong?  ::)

I don't think they care about that, but you can certainly bring it up.

Kat Kanning

Heh, lildog...I never think of the good comebacks on time.

Tom Sawyer


Tom Sawyer


kola

QuoteWhen asked if I had any dangerous items on me, I answered that I had two very dangerous flyers in my pocket.  The guy gave me this blank stare then said Oh, sarcasm.

LMAO!

Did they put on gloves, seal them in plastic baggies and label them as evidence #1 ?


Kola


Kat Kanning

This is just what was on my mind today...Why did Germans support Hitler...Why didn't they see it coming or do something about it?

  Why Germans Supported Hitler

by Jacob G. Hornberger

It has long intrigued me why the German people supported Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime. After all, every schoolchild in America is taught that Hitler and his Nazi cohorts were the very epitome of evil. How could ordinary German citizens support people who were so obviously monstrous in nature?

Standing against the Nazi tide was a remarkable group of young people known as the White Rose. Led by Hans and Sophie Scholl, a German brother and sister who were students at the University of Munich, the White Rose consisted of college students and a college professor who risked their lives to circulate anti-government pamphlets in the midst of World War II. Their arrest and trial was depicted in the German movie Sophie Scholl: The Final Days, which was recently released on DVD in the United States.

Of all the essays on liberty I have written in the past 20 years, my favorite is "The White Rose: A Lesson in Dissent," which I am pleased to say was later reprinted in Voices of the Holocaust, an anthology on the Holocaust for high-school students. The story of the White Rose is the most remarkable case of courage I have ever come across. It even inspired me to visit the University of Munich a few years ago, where portions of the White Rose pamphlets have been permanently enshrined on bricks laid into a plaza at the entrance to the school.

A contrast to the Scholl movie is another recent German movie, Downfall, which details Hitler's final days in the bunker, where he committed suicide near the end of the war. Among the people around Hitler was 22-year-old Traudl Junge, who became his secretary in 1942 and who faithfully served him in that capacity until the end. For me, the most stunning part of the film occurred at the end, when the real Traudl Junge (that is, not the actress who portrays her in the film) says,

    All these horrors I've heard of ... I assured myself with the thought of not being personally guilty. And that I didn't know anything about the enormous scale of it. But one day I walked by a memorial plate of Sophie Scholl in the Franz-Joseph-Strasse.... And at that moment I actually realized ... that it might have been possible to get to know things.

So here were two separate roads taken by German citizens. Most Germans took the road that Traudl Junge took – supporting their government in time of deep crisis. A few Germans took the road that Hans and Sophie Scholl took – opposing their government despite the deep crisis facing their nation.

Why the difference? Why did some Germans support the Hitler regime while others opposed it?

Each American should first ask himself what he would have done if he had been a German citizen during the Hitler regime. Would you have supported your government or would you have opposed it, not only during the 1930s but also after the outbreak of World War II?

After all, it's one thing to look at Nazi Germany retrospectively and from the vantage point of an outside citizen who has heard since childhood about the death camps and of Hitler's monstrous nature. We look at those grainy films of Hitler delivering his bombastic speeches and our automatic reaction is that we would have never supported the man and his political party. But it's quite another thing to place one's self in the shoes of an ordinary German citizen and ask, "What would I have done?"

What we often forget is that many Germans did not support Hitler and the Nazis at the start of the 1930s. Keep in mind that in the 1932 presidential election, Hitler received only 30.1 percent of the national vote. In the subsequent run-off election, he received only 36.8 percent of the vote. It wasn't until President Hindenburg appointed him as chancellor in 1933 that Hitler began consolidating power.

Among the major factors that motivated Germans to support Hitler during the 1930s was the tremendous economic crisis known as the Great Depression, which had struck Germany as hard as it had the United States and other parts of the world. What did many Germans do in response to the Great Depression? They did the same thing that many Americans did – they looked for a strong leader to get them out of the economic crisis.

Rest of the article

JonM

Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 19, 2007, 02:35 PM NHFT
Quote from: shyfrog on July 19, 2007, 01:45 PM NHFT
I think this is what is called "blowback"
Perhaps if they stopped stealing people's property, arresting them, and destroying lives, they wouldn't have dangerous leaflet-terrorists on their hands. *shrugs*

When asked if I had any dangerous items on me, I answered that I had two very dangerous flyers in my pocket.  The guy gave me this blank stare then said Oh, sarcasm.
Perhaps you should carry a pocket constitution for these situations.  "Yes, the Bill of Rights."

Russell Kanning

the FPS guy carries one with him ... it doesn't matter though.

dalebert

Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 19, 2007, 03:24 PM NHFT
Standing against the Nazi tide was a remarkable group of young people known as the White Rose.

We should find a tactful and respectful way to use the term "White Rose" in our protest efforts; perhaps a homage of sorts. Maybe we could even take up a modified name that uses it in a way that pays respects to the original group. People would wonder what it means and maybe google it and learn something and look at us a little differently.


Tom Sawyer

Good idea Dale and good article Kat... and a fine example of bravery and principle today.  8)

Dreepa

Quote from: lildog on July 19, 2007, 02:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 19, 2007, 12:57 PM NHFTAt various times, Therrien lectured me about wasting his time on petty stuff while he needed to be out hunting terrorists.

You should have asked him how many he's caught so far.
Wow this should make the papers..... Terrorists are in NH?  Where?

outatime

I haven't logged in here in a while but I'm happy that Lauren and Kat were let go after stickin' it to the man. Free Dave Ridley!

Thomas

Bald Eagle

So what happened?  It looks like the guy took your V mask and a sign and then brought them back?