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Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« on: July 20, 2007, 09:35 PM NHFT »

My current situation: Twenty seven year-old software engineer with wife and 2 yo son (and working on the next one).  Living in a condo and ready to move to a house next summer.

My background: Been a market anarchist / libertarian for about 8 years.  I used to write a bit, then sort of dropped out of the whole scene.  Worked on building family and career, now starting to be in more comfortable financial situation.  Ron Paul's campaign has re-energized my political spirit (to the point that I, a former nonvoter, actually contributed money and am planning to register Republican to vote for him in the primary), now rereading some of the old sites I used to visit.

In person: Any libertarian get-together I've attended has been abject failure.  Somehow I always end up in "who has the biggest libertarian cock?" contests.  You know the type - always has to quote some Austrian economist or one-up someone else's point.  And the thing is, around my family and friends, I'm not really like that.  So if I've ever met you (which probably is not likely anyway), I apologize.

Why we are moving to NH: Though I plan to continue working my current job, it is within commuting distance of NH.  We actually don't think there is THAT much difference in our everyday lives between remaining in MA vs moving to NH (we did live in NH for a couple of years while I did my Master's degree).  But the following points push us to NH:
* Gun laws.  I don't appreciate being treated like a criminal in MA.
* Homeschooling.  We will be homeschooling, and although the laws in NH don't appear much better than for MA, we hope the culture there would make it less likely to get worse.
* Land / privacy.  We hope to have at least a few acres in a small town.  I grew up in a small town in CT on 28 acres, and I certainly want to provide my children with at least a yard and some trees.
* There is at least some culture of liberty in NH.
* NH is just so damn beautiful.  We love vacationing in the Whites and around Bath/Lisbon (where some of my wife's ancestors come from).

Where we want to move: We weighed all towns in southern NH based upon the following considerations: distance from my current job, distance from general high-tech job markets, population (lower is better), population density, median income (lower is better), house prices, and property taxes.  So the winner is: Mason!  Greenville and New Ipswich also looked like possible landing spots. 

We've visited Mason/Greenville a few times now (Parker's Maple Barn is awesome!), and if everything goes as we hope, we will be moving next summer or fall. 

So, here are my questions:

* Is there anything about these towns we should know about that might influence whether we want to move there?  For example, how do I know if there are crazy zoning laws or land use restrictions?  I could not find anything on the town websites.

* Is the Union Leader worth subscribing to, in your opinion?  When I got a copy last time I was in NH, there was a column by John Stossel which was pretty cool, and I think I remember some favorable press of the FSP. 

* Anyone know of any local homeschool groups?

Jacob
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 10:14 PM NHFT »

Welcome J.

I think you will be pleased when you come to some of our events.
While there certainly are 'debatatarians'  most people want to get shit done.

I don't know much about that area.
I know that there are homeschoolers on this board.. they can point you to the groups.
I get the Concord Monitor (my local paper).
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 12:12 AM NHFT »

Welcome! I think you'll find the "libertarians" around here quite different than you're used to. Most of us are focused on actually getting things done, rather than sitting around jerking each other's chains.

Don't forget to sign the SOI before you move.
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 07:21 AM NHFT »

I know of one homeschool group in Peterborough, and we have a couple in Keene.  Nasua has a big group, I believe.  I think NH Homeschool Coalition has the best info...here's the support groups they list:

http://www.nhhomeschooling.org/supportgroups.htm
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 04:17 PM NHFT »

Awesome to see another one of "us" coming home!
Dreepa and myself are also software guys... there are a lot of us out here who escaped from the People's State of California.

A good idea is to keep an eye on the State Reps for the town you'll be moving into. Phone calls from you to these people can make the difference between Statist laws getting killed or passing. In Mason, the Reps (especially Drisko) are the kind the usually vote anti-liberty, but when their constituents push them, they can be made to see the light. The exception is Levesque, who needs to get booted from her seat. ASAP!
Richard B. Drisko        NHLA "C"
Carolyn M. Gargasz     NHLA "D"
Betty B. Hall              NHLA "D"
Melanie A. Levesque   NHLA "F"

I would suggest joining the NH Liberty Alliance before you move, so you'll be informed: http://nhliberty.org/join
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 10:05 AM NHFT »

Thanks for the replies.  Some of the stuff I've seen from freedom movers to NH is pretty exciting.  Homeshooling is a huge issue for us, and I'm glad to see something like the Liberty Scholarship Fund popping up so people can help other people do this.  I'll want to get involved in stuff like that, even if it's just small contributions for now.

The NHLA also looks like it does a lot of good work.  I just joined up. 

I think it's coordinations like this that will ultimately have the most effect on getting other liberty-lovers to move to NH.  Some people will want to try to effect change through the political process while others may want to do so through social networking and living as free as they can.  My advice is to trumpet your successes in both areas.
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 09:23 AM NHFT »

We have now placed our condo on the market.  If it sells, we will be moving to New Hampshire, though there will likely be a period of temporary housing between selling and buying. 
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 01:30 PM NHFT »

Good luck  :)

Are you still planning on moving to Mason/Greenville, or are  you investigating other areas?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 01:32 PM NHFT by Caeb »
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 04:45 PM NHFT »

Good luck  :)

Are you still planning on moving to Mason/Greenville, or are  you investigating other areas?

We are still planning for Mason/Greenville, which optimizes commutability to Massachusetts with aspects we want from moving to NH.  According to Google, Mason is about an hour from either Keene or Manchester, and 45 min from Nashua.  It is also 1 hour, 20 minutes from my present job, which I plan to retain.  I have created a list of long-commute mitigation strategies, including podcasting Free Talk Live. 
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 08:18 PM NHFT »

It is also 1 hour, 20 minutes from my present job, which I plan to retain.  I have created a list of long-commute mitigation strategies, including podcasting Free Talk Live. 

holy... yeah podcasts are great for driving, but geez almost 3 hours a day. Is your job going to offer you something like working 4 longer days instead of 5 days? I assume telecommuting some days is not possible?
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 09:12 PM NHFT »

It is also 1 hour, 20 minutes from my present job, which I plan to retain.  I have created a list of long-commute mitigation strategies, including podcasting Free Talk Live. 

holy... yeah podcasts are great for driving, but geez almost 3 hours a day. Is your job going to offer you something like working 4 longer days instead of 5 days? I assume telecommuting some days is not possible?

My hours are somewhat flexible.  One of my coworkers who commutes from NH probably works from home twice a week, but he is a technical writer and as a result apparently does not need to interface with others as much.  Still, I think I'll be able to work from home at least once every two weeks, and I am hopeful I can push that up to once a week.

Mitigation strategy # 2 is to shift my hours so that I beat rush hours.  I already do this to a degree.  I can make my work hours 7-4, which may let me shed some minutes off the Google estimate.  Moreover, driving is just more pleasant when it is continuous.

Mitigation strategy # 3 is to get books on CD.  I used to do this sometmies, but the library's selection is geared toward blind 90-year-old women (and I should know, having taken care of one!).  I think there is a Netflix-type service for CDs, so maybe I can finally get to "read" some books I've never had time to.

Mitigation strategy # 4 is to get an iPod and some way to play that in the car.  I might as well get something for my FTL AMP dollars, as I never have time to listen to it now.

And lastly, I don't think approaching the commute time as "wasted" time is the right approach.  No matter where we find ourselves, we can (almost) always find something joyful to enjoy the moments.  For example, as long as I beat rush hour, I always enjoy my morning commute.  I often spend the time meditating (breath awareness) and thinking.  With the above mitigation strategies, I think I'll be able to be present in my afternoon commute and enjoy it as well.

I talked to another coworker once who has an hour and a half commute and asked for his opinion about all that "wasted" time.  He looked at me, paused and said, "Jacob, I have a wife and three kids.  When I am in the car, it is the only time I ever have to myself."
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 01:13 AM NHFT »

Why we are moving to NH: Though I plan to continue working my current job, it is within commuting distance of NH.  We actually don't think there is THAT much difference in our everyday lives between remaining in MA vs moving to NH (we did live in NH for a couple of years while I did my Master's degree).  But the following points push us to NH:
* Gun laws.  I don't appreciate being treated like a criminal in MA.
* Homeschooling.  We will be homeschooling, and although the laws in NH don't appear much better than for MA, we hope the culture there would make it less likely to get worse.
* Land / privacy.  We hope to have at least a few acres in a small town.  I grew up in a small town in CT on 28 acres, and I certainly want to provide my children with at least a yard and some trees.
* There is at least some culture of liberty in NH.
* NH is just so damn beautiful.  We love vacationing in the Whites and around Bath/Lisbon (where some of my wife's ancestors come from).

How about Schedule HC for another reason?
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 07:21 AM NHFT »

The bad news is that we are still in MA for the foreseeable future.  We had our condo on the market since April and lowered the price in September.  The condo market really seems to be dead; only 4 people came to look at the place while we had it on the market. 

We took it off the market because of the good news, which is that my wife is due in early December.     
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 12:00 PM NHFT »

people just don't want to move to MA> . . . but the MA government says it's GROWING!

hahahahahaha
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Re: Planning to move to Mason/Greenville
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2008, 01:38 PM NHFT »

people just don't want to move to MA> . . . but the MA government says it's GROWING!

hahahahahaha

All the liberals are being foreclosed upon and moving to NH; in masses greater than the FSP, so get up to NH!
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