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MRC Machine Gun Shoot Fundraiser

Started by ny2nh, July 24, 2007, 06:05 AM NHFT

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ny2nh

Quote from: grasshopper on July 26, 2007, 10:05 AM NHFT
  OK, this is starting to go down hill!  I say we sue Oldsmoblie!  Masshole Sen fatboy should still be in jail!
   I sent Guinta an e-mail telling him I'll contribute to his election if he showed up.  I also told him it was nice for a Republican to act like one for a change.

Hey, grasshopper....

How about contributing to a Manchester Alderman candidate who will be there?

Dreepa

Quote from: grasshopper on July 26, 2007, 10:05 AM NHFT
  OK, this is starting to go down hill!  I say we sue Oldsmoblie!  Masshole Sen fatboy should still be in jail!
   I sent Guinta an e-mail telling him I'll contribute to his election if he showed up.  I also told him it was nice for a Republican to act like one for a change.

;D +1

KBCraig

The comments on the UL website have just been embarrassing. So many sheeple, so little time...

Here's a good guest editorial, though

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Phil+Greazzo%3a+Sport+shooters+have+nothing+to+do+with+crime+in+Manchester&articleId=9491d889-627c-4ab3-a48e-8eac16c7bf1c

Phil Greazzo: Sport shooters have nothing to do with crime in Manchester

By PHIL GREAZZO

WE ALL WANT to keep our neighborhoods and families safe. I think that's something nearly everyone agrees on. Residents of Manchester are no exception to the instinctive nature of self preservation.

So why would Chris Pappas, chairman of the Manchester Democratic Party, choose to attack Manchester's law-abiding citizens who would exercise their 2nd Amendment rights? Politics, of course.

In response to a Manchester Republican Committee machine gun shoot event, Pappas called it "not just in poor taste; it is downright offensive."

What's offensive is implying that law-abiding citizens who choose to shoot for sport are equally as dangerous as criminals. I guess if Pappas had it his way, no one would be allowed to hunt, participate in shooting sports or arm and protect themselves. The only people with guns would be criminals who ignore the law anyway.

I support the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. In fact, I rely on it and would suggest our citizenry become more familiar with it.

On more than one occasion I've needed to rely on those rights.

For the most part, my neighborhood is great -- except for the many guests of one particular neighbor. I've had my tires slashed, I've been threatened with violence for merely sitting on my front steps and I've endured trash and puke on my property from the endless parties they have had out on the sidewalk.

Last year, I caught one of these "guests" urinating on my house. When I shined a spotlight and yelled out the window at him, he nearly came through that window, where I was sitting with my young daughter. Once the rest of the "gang" heard the commotion, they got involved. There were five of them and only one of me.

Just two weeks ago I heard noise coming from my garage out back. I went to investigate and found hiding in my yard six people who suddenly rushed out at me. They were guests of that same neighbor.

Thankfully, as I drew my weapon to defend myself from another possible attack, half a dozen Manchester police officers rushed past me and arrested all six for criminal trespassing. Thanks, Sgt. Olsen!

Chris Pappas continued his criticism: "The citizens of Manchester have lived through a deadly spike in violent crime the past year-and-a-half, despite the campaign promises of (Mayor) Frank Guinta to lower crime rates." He concluded with, "That the mayor's political party would seek to glorify the use of machine guns for political gain is unconscionable."

What's unconscionable is blaming Mayor Guinta for a problem he inherited from the previous administration and implying he is somehow responsible for the behavior of the criminal element. I applaud Mayor Guinta's effort to reduce crime and increase public safety. He's done a tremendous job making this a safer city.

It's because of Mayor Guinta we have increased patrols in West Manchester and because of my right to keep and bear arms that I haven't suffered injury or death at the hands of those who disregard the law.

What's equally unconscionable is that Pappas would like to have readers believe that the Manchester GOP in its promotion of this event is somehow promoting or advocating violent crime. Any rational, thinking person would easily understand the difference.

Phil Greazzo is a candidate for alderman in Ward 10.


CNHT


ny2nh

Quote from: Dreepa on July 26, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
In fairness to  Mayor Guinta - he will be in Maine with his wife Morgan who runs in an annual charitable road race each year.

Phil

Quote from: KBCraig on July 30, 2007, 12:59 AM NHFT
The comments on the UL website have just been embarrassing. So many sheeple, so little time...

Here's a good guest editorial, though

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Phil+Greazzo%3a+Sport+shooters+have+nothing+to+do+with+crime+in+Manchester&articleId=9491d889-627c-4ab3-a48e-8eac16c7bf1c

Phil Greazzo: Sport shooters have nothing to do with crime in Manchester


http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9930.0

It's true. I filed for Alderman. I asked Shuvom to include it on the agenda for the next MVP meeting. I'll go into more detail at Saturday's meeting.

This is a very winnable race if we do things right. One of the most important things is to focus on what's going to help and staying away from what's going to hurt.

I have the support of some really big sources. Both are a huge help and should be kept confidential for now.

Any controversial issues will hurt our chances. Let's not bring any up, online or to the public, please.  I'd like to keep the focus on small government that's more open and accountable, lower taxes, and quality of life issues.   

We need all the help we can get. Please come to Saturday's meeting if you would like to get involved.

Thanks,

Phil

ny2nh

In the actual print version of the UL there was also a good LTE from John Castelot, Vice Chair of the Manchester GOP.

My last NHinsider blog was about this as well.....it never seemed to be posted in the headlines area though. In case you want to read: http://www.nhinsider.com/tammy-simmons/2007/7/27/responsible-recreation.html

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Quote from: grasshopper on July 26, 2007, 10:20 AM NHFT
  OK, this is starting to go down hill!  I say we sue Oldsmoblie!  Masshole Sen fatboy should still be in jail!
   I sent Guinta an e-mail telling him I'll contribute to his election if he showed up.  I also told him it was nice for a Republican to act like one for a change.


Hey, grasshopper....

How about contributing to a Manchester Alderman candidate who will be there?

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Quote from: grasshopper on July 26, 2007, 10:20 AM NHFT
  OK, this is starting to go down hill!  I say we sue Oldsmoblie!  Masshole Sen fatboy should still be in jail!
   I sent Guinta an e-mail telling him I'll contribute to his election if he showed up.  I also told him it was nice for a Republican to act like one for a change.


  +1

    Hey Phyll, I didn't know you are running.  Cool.  I'll get to ya soon, I've got a wedding Saturday but I'll try to get to the shoot.  I don't want to show up to a full auto shoot "under the weather" and be embarrasing myself and other Porcs.




Dave Ridley


Dave Ridley

report from the Machine Gun Shoot:

Ny2NH from this forum reports turnout of over 300 as of two hours before it ended
three ron paul activists showed up each independently of the other.  i stood near a pedestrian choke point with a big RP sign and my NH flag.  another guy brought a three wheeled motorcycle and covered it with RP signs.  And the third guy stood next to that handing out flyers near the choke point.   We probably handed out 100 and I delivered another 50 or so to RP activists who want to hand them out elsewhere.   The eagle tribune, the monitor, the union leader, the herald, NHPR and Agence France Presse were there plus a TV crew.   the monitor and the AFP reporter interviewed me for maybe ten minutes each about ron paul. 

There was some press exasperation because folks put out a news release invited them then refused to let them near the shooting unless they paid the political donation.    I'm sure that some of u think this is funny but pushing the press away never results in more positive coverage. The NHPR guy who showed up, Josh, sounded like he was giving up up on covering the story at all.  Too bad because it probably would have made the national news and improved our recruiting.  their reporting on us free staters at least has usually been fair, not that it has to be for us to benefit.

I'm sure it's not necessary to mention that i was open carrying the whole time LOL. however one of the organizers begged me to take the v mask off the back of my head, and i did.
See i can be cooperative when its not cops asking me to do something :)

also i got a great deal on ammo from the Manchester Firing Line table

CNHT

The Nashua Meetup whipped that trifold up the other night..for which we are grateful.

I gave many out in Keene this weekend as well.

Sounds like this MGS idea was a success all around!


Recumbent ReCycler

I hope they do it again next year.  I didn't have the cash to do it this year.  It would be cool if a range in Strafford County would open their doors for the SCRC to host a machine gun shoot like that one.

KBCraig

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Bullets+for+bucks%3a+%27Machine+Gun+Shoot%27+raises+%242k+for+GOP&articleId=cc3d5495-7282-4f42-b645-d67d6586297f

Bullets for bucks: 'Machine Gun Shoot' raises $2k for GOP

By SCOTT BROOKS
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff

PELHAM – Manchester Republicans traded bullets for bucks yesterday in an unorthodox and controversial fundraiser at a Pelham firing range.

The city Republican party's first-ever "Machine Gun Shoot" lured hundreds of thrill-seekers and Second Amendment advocates to the Pelham Fish and Game Club with promises of a rare opportunity to wrap their hands around an automatic weapon.

"That was an experience, wasn't it?" said Ken Stargill, 27, smiling broadly after blasting 30 rounds from an AK-47.

About 350 people participated, with proceeds split evenly among the party, the Fish and Game club and the gun supplier, Manchester Firing Line Range. City Republican committee chairman Jerry Thibodeau estimated the party made upward of $2,000 on the day.

No one was hurt, he said, except for one girl who slammed her finger in a car door.

"The most important thing is it was a safe event," Thibodeau said.

It was an unusual fundraiser, with heavy weaponry in place of dinner plates and a dress code that demanded earplugs and safety goggles. Shooters paid $25 plus the cost of ammunition.

Parents and children shot side by side at targets 25 feet down field, spent casings piling about their feet. The sharp stench of cordite hung in the air.

Hardly anyone talked politics.

"I'm more of a shooter than a politician," said Ken McDonald, who owns a Romanian WASR semi-automatic.

Politicians mostly shied away from the event, which drew criticism from local Democrats and some national pundits. MSNBC host Keith Olbermann lampooned Thibodeau last month, spotlighting him in a segment called "Worst Person in the World."

All of the major Republican candidates for President were invited to the fundraiser, Thibodeau said, and all declined.

Many shooters brought their children - some to shoot, some to watch. McDonald towed along his 12-year-old daughter, Katie, who wore a "Spectator" pass over a sparkly pink shirt. Her ear protectors were a size too big, and her face scrunched with every "bang" and "pop."

Another 12-year-old, Thomas Rothman, was in a markedly better mood. Rothman got to shoot an Uzi for the first time.

"For a guy his size, it's not as easy," said his father, Steve, who lives in Nashua. "He's used to firing 22s."

Shooters who didn't bring their own guns had a wide range of firearms to choose from. The most popular, according to Firing Line owners Jim and Carey McLoud, were MP5s ("like what the SWAT teams use," Jim McLoud said) and M-16 rifles.

The list of options noted M-16 users could attach a grenade launcher for an extra fee.

Shooters were monitored by a crew of 22 range officers, who gave instructions and loaded the guns. Bob Shaunessy, who chairs the Pelham club's class-3 weapons committee, watched at a distance, a bullhorn at the ready. His red ballcap read, "Kalashnikov USA."

"We're not going to let some 9-year-old who weighs 90 pounds come and (shoot)," he said. "It's based on, 'Can he handle a gun?"

Organizers were clearly anxious about the publicity the event would receive, as well as concerned for the shooters' privacy. No cameras or audio recorders were allowed on grounds. Atypically for a political fundraiser, reporters were ordered to pay $20 in parking and admission fees.

(Note: The New Hampshire Union Leader, abetted by friendly event staffers, sneaked in without paying).

"People think we're a bunch of yahoos because we like to shoot," said John Errico, president of the Pelham Fish and Game Club. "But it's just like bowling. It's just like baseball. We enjoy doing this. We're not bad guys."

"The truth is, it's a sport," said event volunteer Tammy Simmons. "It might not be a sport everyone is into, but, hey, I think golf is stupid."

In the clubhouse, vendors hawked rifles, handguns and hunting knives. One company sold pink T-shirts with the slogan, "Girls just wanna have guns."

A Plaistow dealer, Stateline Guns, sold two AR-15s and a shotgun. Paul Dobrydnio, a dealer from Merrimack, said he sold about $500 worth of scopes and other accessories.

"I would consider this moderately successful," he said. "I ain't getting rich."

At least one man left the event with a small treasure. Craig Yankes, a Pelham Fish and Game member, spent the intermissions on his hands and knees, picking up used shells, which he planned to recycle and reuse.

He and other members dumped the shells in a big blue bucket. By the event's end, they had collected about 70 pounds' worth.

"This is like a lifetime supply for me," Yankes said. "I'm set."

CNHT

Quote from: KBCraig on August 06, 2007, 01:06 AM NHFT
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Bullets+for+bucks%3a+%27Machine+Gun+Shoot%27+raises+%242k+for+GOP&articleId=cc3d5495-7282-4f42-b645-d67d6586297f

Bullets for bucks: 'Machine Gun Shoot' raises $2k for GOP

By SCOTT BROOKS
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff

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Politicians mostly shied away from the event, which drew criticism from local Democrats and some national pundits. MSNBC host Keith Olbermann lampooned Thibodeau last month, spotlighting him in a segment called "Worst Person in the World."
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Which proves that Keith Olbermann is the worst person in the world.   ::)

ny2nh

Quote from: CNHT on August 05, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
The Nashua Meetup whipped that trifold up the other night..for which we are grateful.

I gave many out in Keene this weekend as well.

Sounds like this MGS idea was a success all around!


Whenever anyone prints any campaign materials, it ineeds to include a "Paid for By" statement on it. I mentioned this to the guy who was there handing them out....just as a heads up.