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Started by Pat K, July 27, 2007, 01:24 AM NHFT

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grasshopper

"after the battle of Armageddon and cleanse the earth of evil. In the end, all the non-believers - Jews, Muslims, Hindus, mainline Christians, etc. - must convert or suffer the torture of eternal damnation."
   If you see God and he is God and God gives you the truth for you to see (whatever God is) wouldn't you say to yourself  "(Beavis n Butthead voice)  Ahh, your God..  aha-ha-ha aaah-ah ..ha ha-ha..  Cool!


  Ahhh, my Bible in Revalation 20 does say something like this but the translation actually reads more like this:
The lake of fire is obviously not located on this present earth, for this present earth will have burned up and "fled away" (Revelation 20:11) by this time; yet the lake of fire will have been burning continuously for more than a thousand years (Revelation 19:20). Neither will it be on the new earth, for that will be the home of "the Lord God Almighty" (Revelation 21:22), whereas "them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ...shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power" (2 Thessalonians 1:8,9). The word "destruction" does not mean annihilation, but "ruin." Thus, the unsaved will be moved far away from the presence of the Lord, and there they will remain forever. They may well be translated to a far distant dark star, for a star is itself a lake of fire, and the lost are said to be like "wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" (Jude 13). There they must continue in their sinful state, hating God, never resting, without light, without love, without peace, without anything that speaks of the presence or power of God, forever. Lest anyone think this fate too severe, there are several factors to remember. In the first place, those who have rejected God's presence in their lives while they were on earth will be less miserable in hell than if they were forced to be in His presence in heaven forever. Secondly, only infinite punishment is fitting for those who have rejected or ignored the infinite love and infinite suffering of the Son of God for them. Finally, they must exist forever somewhere since they had been created in God's image which by definition is eternal.
  (eds note)I see the suffering as a kind of Mad Max existence where the wicked are the strongest, not a nice place to live out eternity.


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dEadERest

I look forward to the rapture also.
No traffic!

CNHT

You know this is just the opposite extreme caused by people who think that not supporting Israel means you are being an anti-semite. So I blame the politically correct for causing this.

Why the hell does it always have to mean WAR just to say you support someone? I support every country's right for peace and freedom, but I don't want to give any of them money or intervene in wars to force that if it's not happening on its own.

But you would be surprised at the attacks you will get for that principled and unprejudiced stand.

So, you can't win...these people truly think they are being 'Christian' and helpful to Israel...but they are overboard.

kola

Crazy video..

those folks are scarey..almost as if they were mid controlled zombies.

Using religion and "the word of God" to support killing?
Sorry, I ain't buying.

Kola

CNHT

Quote from: kola on July 27, 2007, 12:40 PM NHFT
Crazy video..

those folks are scarey..almost as if they were mid controlled zombies.

Using religion and "the word of God" to support killing?
Sorry, I ain't buying.

Kola

Well no one is selling.

I was commenting on the fact that they support Israel's right to existence, peace, freedom blah blah blah just as we would, which is fine, but have gone overboard to the extreme to support it with things we definitely wouldn't support.


lowen

Quote from: dEadERest on July 27, 2007, 11:37 AM NHFT
I look forward to the rapture also.
No traffic!

Quite the contrary. I think if it were to come now like ten people would suddenly disappear and the rest of the entire f'ing world would have no clue. Hmm, maybe the rapture has already started.

dalebert

Quote from: Pat K on July 27, 2007, 01:24 AM NHFT
HOLY SHIT!

Check the bathrooms at that event and I'm sure you could find lots of that.

dEadERest

Quote from: Kid Android on July 27, 2007, 01:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: dEadERest on July 27, 2007, 11:37 AM NHFT
I look forward to the rapture also.
No traffic!

Quite the contrary. I think if it were to come now like ten people would suddenly disappear and the rest of the entire f'ing world would have no clue. Hmm, maybe the rapture has already started.
Well, then ten less people at Wal-mart.

JohninRI

Personally, I believe that the rapture already happened and almost everyone missed it.

It did not happen all at once but over a period of about a year.  It also happened on just about every continent on earth and to the very meekest and poorest people on this earth.  The other people of this earth saw it happen, but it did not register;  because it was not confined to CHRISTIANS.  In fact very few Christians were taken.

Can you guess when it might have happened?

I'll give you a hint.  Revelations calls for 2 periods of 7 years or 4 periods of 3 1/2 years with the Rapture occurring in a period during the middle.  The first period of 3 1/2 years is a time of universal peace which will end abruptly with the whole world witnessing the fall of the great harlot who fornicated with all of the kings of the world.  The Rapture began about 3 years later and ended about a half year into the third period of 3 1/2 years or the second period of 7 years.

Now, the most interesting event is that at the end of the second 7 year period the Messiah will make himself known here on this earth.  However, at the end of the third 3 1/2 year period there will be a series of events or plagues which will take a huge portion of the population.

John in RI

lowen

Quote from: JohninRI on July 27, 2007, 03:45 PM NHFT
Personally, I believe that the rapture already happened and almost everyone missed it.

It did not happen all at once but over a period of about a year.  It also happened on just about every continent on earth and to the very meekest and poorest people on this earth.  The other people of this earth saw it happen, but it did not register;  because it was not confined to CHRISTIANS.  In fact very few Christians were taken.

Can you guess when it might have happened?

I'll give you a hint.  Revelations calls for 2 periods of 7 years or 4 periods of 3 1/2 years with the Rapture occurring in a period during the middle.  The first period of 3 1/2 years is a time of universal peace which will end abruptly with the whole world witnessing the fall of the great harlot who fornicated with all of the kings of the world.  The Rapture began about 3 years later and ended about a half year into the third period of 3 1/2 years or the second period of 7 years.

Now, the most interesting event is that at the end of the second 7 year period the Messiah will make himself known here on this earth.  However, at the end of the third 3 1/2 year period there will be a series of events or plagues which will take a huge portion of the population.

John in RI

My head hurts.

Pat K

Quote from: dalebert on July 27, 2007, 01:42 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat K on July 27, 2007, 01:24 AM NHFT
HOLY SHIT!

Check the bathrooms at that event and I'm sure you could find lots of that.


LOL, but Im not sure thats true, these folks don't seem to go to the bathroom.
Thats why their so full of it.

Original Rebal

I'm sorry but that f'ing pisses me off!!!

How ignorant can some people be?

After being out of the church for quite
some time now (after seeing the truth)
it's hilarious to watch brainwashed fools
like this as they blindly follow.

This should discredit every professional
involved and show them as the limited,
controled thinkers that they are!

I apologize for the rant but this kind of
support for this kind of cause just pisses
me off!

grasshopper

   I don't care who says what or kills who BUT if you look at history, the Jews are pretty much ALWAYS getting exterminated for some reacon or other.  Me thinks it is because there IS a God and the Jews are his people.  If you look at modern history, those who screw with the Jews get hammered badly.  Look what we did to the Germans!  We sent them back to the stone age where they belonged for what they did.  6.000.000 Jews, 7 million Christians, Wiccans/Gypsies and CHristians/protestants.  Hitler worshiped the "Earth" and was a VERY spiritual man, so wern't his followers.  Look up NAZI mysticysim, you'll be horrified at how close it is to the Earth Worshiping movement in this day and age.  After all, the NAZI sign was just a symbol of mother earth turning and unified.

CNHT

#14
Freedom of religion is like freedom to own guns; both can be used for good or bad, but neither should be outlawed.

And I agree with you grasshopper -- today's earth worship or 'gaia' religion is similar to what the nazis promoted and the one world government's ploy to unite the world around the new UN constitution =  'Ein Fuherer, Ein Reich'

They also have to make abortion legitimate and acceptable so it paves the way for other types of killing...like people over a certain age, people with certain conditions, once they are deemed not worth having around. This is why secular humanism, and getting rid of all religion except the gaian one, is so important.

Read up on Margaret Sanger and it will scare the bejeebers out of you.

My Cambodian friends used to tell me horror stories of how they confiscated the property of their relatives first then jailed and starved the person.