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What will happen when they bring back the Draft?

Started by nx20595, September 03, 2007, 07:56 PM NHFT

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nx20595

I was in the car with my friends the other day, and we heard advertisements on the radio about how you had to register for selective service.  This was rather disturbing (not even mentioning the gung ho macho register OR ELSE nature of the add).   I ask everybody here what they think will happen when they decide to come for you or loved ones and send them off to a pointless war?

Dreepa

Depends if 'the war' is still going on.
I think it may be a repeat of 'the 60s'  ... note... I was not there in the 60s so I really don't know what it was like.

Lex

Quote from: nx20595 on September 03, 2007, 07:56 PM NHFT
I was in the car with my friends the other day, and we heard advertisements on the radio about how you had to register for selective service.  This was rather disturbing (not even mentioning the gung ho macho register OR ELSE nature of the add).   I ask everybody here what they think will happen when they decide to come for you or loved ones and send them off to a pointless war?

Nothing will happen except people getting shipped off to war waiving American flags.

Insurgent

It seems inevitable; and while I will not participate under any circumstances, I concern myself more for the stakes of my 18 yld nephew  :angry4:

David

I have been convinced the warhawks will bring back the draft as a necessity to continue their precious wars.  I will draft dodge.  I hope the fed spies write that down.  I will not ever participate in a war of aggression. 

Spencer

If a war is just and the cause worthy, you need not force people to serve.  A draft is slavery (even more than the income tax).

ThePug

Quote from: Spencer on September 03, 2007, 10:49 PM NHFT
If a war is just and the cause worthy, you need not force people to serve.  A draft is slavery (even more than the income tax).

Unfortunately the mindset is already engraved that a draft is needed for "big wars", not just unpopular wars. WWII is a perfect example. Without going into whether or not the US should have fought the war, the fact is that it was seen as a "just war" by the vast majority of the population- and the draft was completely unnecessary. The only reason they kept it was because FDR had forced a draft before the war started, and so it just stayed through inertia more than any actual need.

And yes, the draft is not only immoral but a blatant violation of the 13th Amendment. One could argue that a draft isn't "slavery" as was intended in the 13th Amendment, but it undeniably is "involuntary servitude". I'm still trying to decide whether or not I'll register when I turn 18, even though I'll be ineligible for actual military service as a diabetic. They stopped prosecuting for non-registration in 1986, but from what I've read it's still required for federal student loans.

David

Actually now that I think about it, those selective service radio ads have been on at least in some places for close to a year or more.  I registered once right after I turned 18, haven't since.  <Oh know, does that mean I won't be eligible for welfare or a gov't job if I don't register?>blantant sarcasm.   >:D

NHRes2004

Quote from: ThePug on September 03, 2007, 11:21 PM NHFT
They stopped prosecuting for non-registration in 1986, but from what I've read it's still required for federal student loans.

NH requires registration for state jobs or education financial assistance.

RSA 187-A:38 thru 187-A:41.

NHRes2004

South Carolina SSS registration requirement:

Selective Service
All men aged 18 to 25 must register for the Selective Service, a nationwide military call-up program. We are not currently under a draft, but this selective service will be used should a draft ever become necessary. When you apply for your license, you'll be asked to complete Form 447, which can be viewed online viewed using the free Adobe Reader.

South Carolina transmits information on all males 13 to 17 years old to the Selective Service. If you have registered through another organization, be sure to let the DMV know of this when you apply for a license or ID card. You will need to provide proof of registration.

NHRes2004

Kansas DMV FAQ

Selective Service Registration

I'm a 21 year old male. Why do I have to consent to you sending my information to the Selective Service System?
During the 2003 Legislative Session, Kansas lawmakers passed a bill, requiring that we send the Selective Service System information on all male applicants that are at least 16 years of age, but less than 26, applying for a driver 's license or ID card. This law is effective July 1, 2003.

I'm only 16. I'm not required to register with the selective service system until my 18th birthday. Why are you sending my information to them?
We are required to do so by law, however the selective service system will not do anything with the information until you turn 18.

I already registered with the selective service system, or am currently in the military, what will be done with my information?
It will be sent to the Selective Service System and appropriate registration action will be taken, or no action if you are already registered.


NHRes2004

Virginia DL application:

Generally males under age 26 must register with the Selective Service. If you are required by federal law to register with the Selective Service, you must authorize DMV to forward your personal information to the Selective Service unless you have already registered.
If you are under age 18, your parent or guardian must sign your application authorizing the Selective Service to register you when you turn age 18. Law prohibits DMV from issuing any type of driver's license or photo ID card to an applicant who is required by federal law to register with the Selective Service but who refuses to authorize DMV to send his information to the Selective Service.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: David on September 04, 2007, 12:35 AM NHFT
Actually now that I think about it, those selective service radio ads have been on at least in some places for close to a year or more.  I registered once right after I turned 18, haven't since.  <Oh know, does that mean I won't be eligible for welfare or a gov't job if I don't register?>blantant sarcasm.   >:D

Once is enough.   

Lloyd Danforth

The original reason for draft registration in the past was that the feds had no way of knowing you existed.  Now, you're, pretty much, registered at birth when your parents were forced to register you with the social security system. The registration at 18 is a measure of compliance, and, of course, another obstacle put in your way, that you either comply with or are a criminal.

Raineyrocks

I think if another "terror attack" happens there will probably be little objection to the draft; a lot of people will believe the crap the govt and media puts in front of their faces. :-\

I asked my 19 year old son what he would do and he said he'd go. ::)