Man shoots robbery suspects while on the phone with the police operator.

[dalebert]

If you break into someone's home for ANY reason and get shot dead, don't come crying to me.

If they get shot dead and then come crying to you, make sure you shoot them in the head because they're a ZOMBIE!

[penguins4me]

I don't know how I feel about this shooting -- the police did take to long to arrive, but did the criminals really need to die?

If you ask me they were probably victims of the war on drugs.....sad

I empathize, and while I don't believe that theft (or burglary, breaking and entering, vandalism, etc.) should equate to the death penalty, I *DO* believe that if a thief is confronted by someone with a large firearm (or perhaps even a little bitty firearm), the thief should immediately STOP what they're doing, DROP everything they're carrying, and LIE DOWN slowly and remain still until they are carted off to face a speedy and fair trial.

If the thief decides to do anything else, let it be on his own head.

[RangerProbst]

When Burglars get shot, it should be treated as an occupational
hazard.

Ahaha! +1

[RangerProbst]

I don't know how I feel about this shooting -- the police did take to long to arrive, but did the criminals really need to die?

If you ask me they were probably victims of the war on drugs.....sad

After being on the phone for 5 minutes and still no police, he finally went outside and that is when the shooting occured. 5 minutes is a long time to wait when two people are committing a felony 20 yards from you.

I'm not saying that I would have done things exactly the same way but as Pat K pointed out, getting shot while burglurizing someone else's property should be treated like an occupational hazard. Also, witnesses say the two men were approaching the shooter when he started firing. I feel no sympathy for these men. They got what they had coming to them.

Cause: damage someone else's property, steal other people's things.
Effect: get shot center mass with a 12 guage from about 15 feet.

I actually caught 2 perps INSIDE the cab of my truck, vandalizing my dash and stealing things from me just a little over a year ago. One of them ran. The other faced off with me and acted like he had a gun in the front of his pants. He was lucky enough to get the ass-whooping I gave him and serve time. If I was allowed to carry in CA, he'd have been shot a half-dozen times once he insinuated that he had a firearm. Had both of them ran, you can be damned sure I would have chased one of them down.

If you steal my shit, you are either going to make me happy by making immediate reparations that I think are acceptable or your ass is going to the local Police Station and you can work it out with the Judge. If you threaten me physically, move towards me, and I don't think I can take you, you are in a bad place if I am armed.

Criminals like this definitely AREN'T rocket scientists or else they wouldn't be breaking into vehicles at 2 pm in broad daylight. Even then, I'm sure they are smart enough to realize that they are taking or damaging something that doesn't belong to them. If this guy gets off, how much do you want to bet that there won't be any more burglaries in his neighborhood? People will be MUCH less likely to mistreat each other when the penalties for crime outweigh the benefits of success.


Per the late Robert E. Howard, "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."

I will not look at these men as victims of the war on drugs. We all make our own decisions and they are as responsible for their decisions as I am mine. Bottom line, they made the decision to break into someone else's vehicle, stole this person's things, and they got shot for it. Obviously, a bad call on their part.

[Lasse]

I don't know how I feel about this shooting -- the police did take to long to arrive, but did the criminals really need to die?

If you ask me they were probably victims of the war on drugs.....sad

I empathize, and while I don't believe that theft (or burglary, breaking and entering, vandalism, etc.) should equate to the death penalty, I *DO* believe that if a thief is confronted by someone with a large firearm (or perhaps even a little bitty firearm), the thief should immediately STOP what they're doing, DROP everything they're carrying, and LIE DOWN slowly and remain still until they are carted off to face a speedy and fair trial.

If the thief decides to do anything else, let it be on his own head.

Shooting someone during the commission of crime is not equivalent of the death penalty. The death penalty is an after-the-fact execution - say you saw that guy who held your wife hostage and robbed your home the other night, and you walk over to him and shoot him down in cold blood one day after it had happened - that would be more comparable to the death penalty.

[EJinCT]

From what I have read, I feel Mr. Horn made an erroneous decision in the way he handled the situation. It seems to me there was no real immediate threat to anyones life. Without knowing more details it's hard to judge. It kind of reads like he was just itching to play the cowboy role.

Though I don't particularly feel bad for the perp's; simply a case of instant karma. We are all responsible for our words and actions.

[kola]

Not only do I strongly support Mr Horn's action but it sends a loud and clear message to other thieves.

You can bet that neighborhood will be a lot safer.

BUT NOW, OTOH..what if a situation comes up where the friends/family of the deceased come back looking for revenge???


Kowboy Kola

[penguins4me]

From what I have read, I feel Mr. Horn made an erroneous decision in the way he handled the situation. It seems to me there was no real immediate threat to anyones life. Without knowing more details it's hard to judge. It kind of reads like he was just itching to play the cowboy role.

Though I don't particularly feel bad for the perp's; simply a case of instant karma. We are all responsible for our words and actions.

In some parts of this country, neighbors are friends or close equivalents. Seeing a friend being mugged, robbed, or burgled would cause many folks consternation.

The transcript of the phone call reflects fairly poorly on Mr. Horn... while we all kick back in our easy chairs and read it. What's also missing is the visual elements - one person (I read it on the Internet!) stated that another of Mr. Horn's neighbors said that one of the burglars made a move to rush at Mr. Horn before any shooting started.