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The Proof For Anarchy

Started by David, May 20, 2008, 01:44 PM NHFT

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David

Stephan Molyneux is good.  I argue the same way.  If a man can lift 100 lbs than surely he can lift 5 lbs.  If anarchy can survive under the most oppressive situation, than surely it can survive under ideal conditions. 
I strongly suggest anyone to watch the whole thing.  The first half is boring, but the second half is very interesting. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIs5r3ujBmw&feature=related
His example functions in every society in the world, and without question, has proven impossible to destroy.  It is not some theroretical bull, it is definitely a well documented example.  Most just don't think of it in terms of anarchy.  But it is definitely an example of voluntary 'organization'.

John Edward Mercier

The oppressive condition maximizes the potential of the anarchaic system.

In example, the black market is profitable because of the oppression. Remove the oppression the black market no longer functions... profitability drops.

In this case, without the threat of oppression, no one would pay the elected officials. The system would cease to exist.

The large associations created by the DROs would in essence become what we would define as the State.

David

He was trying to prove the viability of a voluntary society, aka, anarchy, not the viability of DRO's.  But as an aside, if society could throw off a gov't that has at its foundation force, it should be relatively easy to throw off DRO's that at least initially has its foundation on persuasion.  They are after all, nothing more than glorified third party's, or insurance companies. 
It is true that the existing insurers do lobby gov't to pass law favorable to them, and thus through gov't use force, but they themselves do not use force.  At most they are accused of fraud, never force.  If you don't pay, they don't insure. 

John Edward Mercier

I think he's trying to suggest that it would be peaceful... but there is no guarantee that the entity making the pay off and not getting their vote might not retaliate in some fashion... possibly even deadly.