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House Votes to Extend Patriot Act

Started by YeahItsMeJP, July 21, 2005, 10:28 PM NHFT

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YeahItsMeJP


By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
60 minutes ago


President Bush speaks about the Patriot Act in Baltimore, ...

WASHINGTON - The House voted Thursday to extend the USA Patriot Act, the nation's main anti-terrorism tool, just hours after televisions in the Capitol beamed images of a new attack in London.

As similar legislation worked its way through the Senate, House Republicans generally cast the law as a valuable asset in the war on terror. Most Democrats echoed that support but said they were concerned the law could allow citizens' civil liberties to be infringed.

After more than nine hours of debate, the House approved the measure 257-171. Forty-three Democrats joined 214 Republicans in voting to renew key provisions of the Patriot Act that were set to expire at the end of the year.

The bulk of the back-and-forth centered on language making permanent 14 of 16 provisions that had four-year sunset provisions under the original law, which Congress passed overwhelmingly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The bill also includes 10-year extensions to the two other provisions set to expire on Dec. 31, one allowing roving wiretaps and another allowing searches of library and medical records.

"While the Patriot Act and other anti-terrorism initiatives have helped avert additional attacks on our soil, the threat has not receded," said Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the top Democrat on the committee, said that while "I support the majority of the 166 provisions of the Patriot Act," the extensions could lessen accountability. "Ten years is not a sunset; 10 years is semi-permanent," he said.

President Bush hailed the vote.

"The Patriot Act is a key part of our efforts to combat terrorism and protect the American people, and the Congress needs to send me a bill soon that renews the act without weakening our ability to fight terror," Bush said in a statement released by the White House.

As the House debated the legislation, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved its own extension of the bill, though it included only four-year extensions for the roving wiretap and records search provisions.

A competing bill also has been approved by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which would give the FBI expanded powers to subpoena records without the approval of a judge or grand jury. That ensured further Senate talks on the terrorism-fighting measure. The House legislation will also have to be reconciled with whatever emerges from the Senate.

The House debate included frequent references to the attacks earlier in the day, two weeks after larger London blasts that killed 56, including four suicide bombers.

The roving wiretap provision, Section 206, allows investigators to obtain warrants to intercept a suspect's phone conversations or Internet traffic without limiting it to a specific phone or identifying the suspect. The records provision, Section 215, authorizes federal officials to obtain "tangible items" such as business, library and medical records.

Advocates argued that such powers already exist in criminal investigations so they should be expressly continued for terrorism investigations. They also cited safeguards in the bill, such as a requirement that a judge approve the records search.

One amendment, passed by a 402-26 vote, requires the FBI director to personally approve any request for library or bookstore records. Another successful amendment sets a 20-year jail term for an attack against a rail or mass-transit vehicle; a 30-year sentence if the vehicle carries nuclear material; and life imprisonment - with the possibility of the death penalty - if anyone is killed in such an attack.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., a former FBI agent, recalled using such tools in gang and child molestation investigations.

"All we do in the Patriot Act is say, `Look, if we can go after child molesters sitting in the library and bombers who we need to sneak-and-peek on a warrant, we ought to be able to go after terrorists,'" he said.

Critics heralded the bulk of the existing law, but said the sunsets were wisely inserted amid the inflamed passions following the Sept. 11 attacks, and should be retained to assess the long-term impact of the law.

"Periodically revisiting the Patriot Act is a good thing," said Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass. "The Patriot Act was an effort to answer the most difficult question a democracy faces: How much freedom are we willing to give up to feel safe?"

Democrats were incensed after Republican leaders blocked consideration of an amendment that would have blocked the library searches. The House approved identical language last month in a test vote.

"If you don't like it, come up and speak against it," said Rep. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who sponsored the amendment. "But it has passed once and it would likely pass again."

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The House bill number is H.R. 3199.

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For bill text: http://thomas.loc.gov

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

SethCohn

Bass and Bradley voted for this...  someone should explain to them it's anti-liberty... Live Free or Die....all that jazz.

Kat Kanning

Quote from: JP Moonbat on July 21, 2005, 10:28 PM NHFT
WASHINGTON - The House voted Thursday to extend the USA Patriot Act, the nation's main anti-terrorism tool, just hours after televisions in the Capitol beamed images of a new attack in London.

When I looked this morning, the headlines for the bombs and the Patriot Act were together even.  Disgusting.  They use people's fear to heap tyranny on us.

YeahItsMeJP

Perhaps the bombs were actually planned by Britain to help the US easily pass a renewal for the Patriot Act?

At this point, I'd believe Bush ordered the attack on 9/11 himself.

SethCohn

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Quote from: JP Moonbat on July 22, 2005, 05:44 AM NHFT
Perhaps the bombs were actually planned by Britain to help the US easily pass a renewal for the Patriot Act?

At this point, I'd believe Bush ordered the attack on 9/11 himself.

http://www.infowars.com  has a lot on both 9/11 and the London Bombings.  The number of 'coincidences' are getting far too hard to ignore.
The more you look into 9/11, the more you begin to wonder...

Russell Kanning

Quote from: SethCohn on July 22, 2005, 03:59 AM NHFT
Bass and Bradley voted for this...? someone should explain to them it's anti-liberty... Live Free or Die....all that jazz.

Sounds like a job for the "work within the system" boys :)

I would just burn something >:D

YeahItsMeJP

Quote from: russellkanning on July 22, 2005, 08:53 AM NHFT
Quote from: SethCohn on July 22, 2005, 03:59 AM NHFT
Bass and Bradley voted for this...? someone should explain to them it's anti-liberty... Live Free or Die....all that jazz.

Sounds like a job for the "work within the system" boys :)

I would just burn something >:D

Why don't we burn a copy of the 350 page USA PATRIOT Act???

JP

Russell Kanning

Can we get some copies ... we could light them with our UN flags >:D .... we have 3 we are bringing to porcfest


Russell Kanning

I was thinking burning their stuff .... not my paper >:D

Russell Kanning

Not really >:D
They aren't getting much from me. 8)

Russell Kanning