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dalebert

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Prosecuting the Free Market
« on: August 06, 2008, 11:39 PM NHFT »

Today's comic was posted on the Lew Rockwell blog by Manuel Lora!
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/2008/08/06/prosecuting-the-free-market/

You can digg today's strip here.
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Prosecuting_the_Free_Market

And I never miss a chance to remind people that you can vote for the comic every day.
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FTL_Ian

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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 01:45 PM NHFT »

You also got posted to Freedom's Phoenix
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Pat K

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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 01:49 PM NHFT »

Excellent. ;D 8)
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 02:46 PM NHFT »

that strip starts off w/ quite an assumption that there are actually ppl in prison for such 'violations' of free market capitalism...

would be interesting to see if there are folks doin time for gouging, predatory practices etc...  yes, there may be some exceptions of merchants taking advantage of natural disasters by over pricing their stock to fit a 'survival of the fittest' scheme...  and they've probably been dealt w/ by the 'courts'..

if its the free market capitalists complaining about such a scenario, then they may want to remember while they toss their hissy fits about coercion: free market capitalism, w/ its addiction and reliance on the states operating principal of organized violence to protect their interests, is the most coercive of all..

anyway...  thats my .02  ... and my first post on the Underground... lovin' it so far....
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 02:47 PM NHFT by AnarcSyn »
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 03:09 PM NHFT »

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free market capitalism, w/ its addiction and reliance on the states

You're describing what exists today, and what exists today is fascism, not free market capitalism. Please don't confuse those, it's not a free market if you're being forced to make or not make your own buying decisions. The rest of the sentiment, I'm with you on. :)
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 06:22 PM NHFT »

Dugg, commented (on digg), voted again. Loved the comic! :)

And agreed to Kevin on free market vs. fascism.

Cheers
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 08:00 PM NHFT »

Hehe. This is an interesting pingback.

http://jeffreyquick.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/comixes/

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Thanks to the LRC blog, I have discovered this.
OK, the art and level of humor isn’t much above your typical college student paper, but he’s a philosophical homeboy.

Conservative readers: unless you can handle doobies rolled from the Constitution, hammocks made of tapeworms, and soap bubbles having sex with porcupines, don’t go there.

For that matter, anyone doing anti-Ron Paul cartoons really isn’t taking any prisoners.
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 04:40 PM NHFT »

the free market is no longer 'free' it is a fascist market.

Good On.  :D
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 02:24 AM NHFT »

the free market is no longer 'free' it is a fascist market.

Good On.  :D

I don’t think we’ve ever had a truly free market in this country. It came close when the United States were first created, but by the mid-1800s the market had been bent to the advantage of the large industrialists using the power of the State, and by the 1930s the State realized they could increase their power further by implementing welfare statism (tricking the poor into believing it was socialism, and to their advantage) on top of that.
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John Edward Mercier

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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 11:25 PM NHFT »

Huh?

It was bent by the poor socialist. I doubt my great grandfather would have invented child labor laws, social insurance, worker's comp, or any other non-individaul contract type program.
Even the 16th Amendment was passed because the poor deemed the wealthy evil.

The societal problem is described by the 'Grasshopper and Ant' fable.
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2008, 12:11 PM NHFT »

the free market is no longer 'free' it is a fascist market.

Good On.  :D

I don’t think we’ve ever had a truly free market in this country. It came close when the United States were first created, but by the mid-1800s the market had been bent to the advantage of the large industrialists using the power of the State, and by the 1930s the State realized they could increase their power further by implementing welfare statism (tricking the poor into believing it was socialism, and to their advantage) on top of that.

Why don't you think the 1930's was just a continuation of the mid-1880's? It is a common misconception on the left that the state and big business are antagonists.
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2008, 01:18 PM NHFT »

I think most haven't seen the evolution of for-profit corporations.
The change in format from Industrialist to unattached shareholder capitalist.
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2008, 02:16 PM NHFT »

... by the mid-1800s the market had been bent to the advantage of the large industrialists using the power of the State ...

Just an observation...

In the mid-1800s a 14 year-old woman could:

1> Not vote. (No woman could, but it didn't make much difference by the mid-1800s the "People's" votes no longer mattered as evidenced by most of the actions/reactions of Congress on a large number of issues.)

2> Freely move west to any of the new Territories/States without government interference or permission or approval.

3> Freely marry whomever she chose without government interference or permission or license.

4> Freely travel using the best, most modern modes of transportation at the time without government interference or permission or license.

5> Have children and raise them how she and her (married to in the "eyes of their god", but not by the "state") husband chose... including teaching them religious beliefs... without government interference.

6> Go to the store and purchase or barter for: A> The latest, modern, most up-to-date medicines available and self-medicate as she choses (including such narcotics as laudinum), B> Various "spirits", "herbs", "spices" and food stores, C> The most modern, high-powered, "assault weapons" of the day, D> as much ammunition for those weapons as desired, and D> many other items that are highly regulated today... ALL without government interference or permission or license or approval or "background checks".

7> Purchase or barter for the services of doctors and dentists to perform various procedures, both necessary and voluntary... ALL without government interference or permission or mandated insurance or instituted "managed care".

8> Moving west, she (and her husband) could settle or "homestead" and farm the land and build their house as they wanted... ALL without government interference or permission or license or approval or "building codes" or inspections or "property taxes".

9> If someone attacked, assaulted or invaded her farm or home, she could protect and defend herself and her loved ones by whatever means necessary up to and including deadly force... and, in almost every instance, the local folks would back her up by helping to bury the miscreants.

I know that there were lots of things that weren't very good in the mid-1800s, but I will never understand why a 14 year-old then was often considered a "woman" or "man" and now we don't allow them to drive until 16+ and drink until 21+... (forget voting at 18, if voting made any difference, it'd be illegal!)

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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2008, 03:01 PM NHFT »

A mixture of tradition, and voting law becoming common practice.
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Re: Prosecuting the Free Market
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2008, 07:02 PM NHFT »

the free market is no longer 'free' it is a fascist market.

Good On.  :D

I don’t think we’ve ever had a truly free market in this country. It came close when the United States were first created, but by the mid-1800s the market had been bent to the advantage of the large industrialists using the power of the State, and by the 1930s the State realized they could increase their power further by implementing welfare statism (tricking the poor into believing it was socialism, and to their advantage) on top of that.

Why don't you think the 1930's was just a continuation of the mid-1880's? It is a common misconception on the left that the state and big business are antagonists.

The State, using its central bank, screwed with the money supply and caused an economic collapse that put an awful lot of big business, well, out of business. They then implemented a bunch of psuedo-socialist programs regulating said businesses, which in turn greatly expanded the power of the State itself.

There may only be a slight difference between the two parties, but there is a difference. The Republicans are in it for big business. The Democrats are in it for themselves.
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