New World Order Rams Through Sham Cap & Trade Bill (hope it's not a repost)

[tomgh]

Ah, but now you will be required to assess such things, and after a few years, if your house does not meet arbitrary requirements, you will not be allowed by the government to even sell your house.

Might you be able to explain the cause of this concern? What is in the law that will require this?

[violence]

Ah, but now you will be required to assess such things, and after a few years, if your house does not meet arbitrary requirements, you will not be allowed by the government to even sell your house.

Might you be able to explain the cause of this concern? What is in the law that will require this?

[tomgh]

Gee, thank you for clearing that up.

Are you selective and as well-thought-out in your use of violence?

[John Edward Mercier]

Ah, but now you will be required to assess such things, and after a few years, if your house does not meet arbitrary requirements, you will not be allowed by the government to even sell your house.

Might you be able to explain the cause of this concern? What is in the law that will require this?

There isn't. The bill (still hasn't passed the Senate) has several changes to current law.
From govtrack:
'Amends the Energy Conservation and Production Act to revise energy conservation standards for new buildings. Requires the Administrator to establish: (1) standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for residences; and (2) a building energy performance labeling program. Establishes a rebate program to assist low-income households residing in pre-1976 manufactured homes in purchasing new Energy Star qualified manufactured homes.
Requires the Secretary to establish a Best-in-Class Appliances Deployment Program. '
The Act as it concerned building insulation levels was changed in 1976 to include manufactured housing... then again in 1986 to establish the current standards.

[violence]

Gee, thank you for clearing that up.

Are you selective and as well-thought-out in your use of violence?

figure it out for yourself if you really want to know

[tomgh]

I'm thinking not so much.

[tomgh]

Ah, but now you will be required to assess such things, and after a few years, if your house does not meet arbitrary requirements, you will not be allowed by the government to even sell your house.

Might you be able to explain the cause of this concern? What is in the law that will require this?

There isn't. The bill (still hasn't passed the Senate) has several changes to current law.
From govtrack:
'Amends the Energy Conservation and Production Act to revise energy conservation standards for new buildings. Requires the Administrator to establish: (1) standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for residences; and (2) a building energy performance labeling program. Establishes a rebate program to assist low-income households residing in pre-1976 manufactured homes in purchasing new Energy Star qualified manufactured homes.
Requires the Secretary to establish a Best-in-Class Appliances Deployment Program. '
The Act as it concerned building insulation levels was changed in 1976 to include manufactured housing... then again in 1986 to establish the current standards.

Thank you for that. But I don't see anything in there that would lead to the kind of panic I sense in the post by Ogre. Do you? What would make him think that?

[CJS]

 This bill imposes on the small / family farm with new and costly operations costs that are not forced on the corporate farms .. how an that be constitutional with equal protection under the law . As I see it the powers that ne are stopping us from providing are own food .

[Ogre]

Here's the part: "Requires the Administrator to establish: (1) standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for residences;"

This give an appointed person and their government assistants literally the power to decide what kind of house you will live in based on whatever they feel like. If you do not meet their arbitrary standards, including houses that now exist ("retrofit policy"), then they can simply declare any house they don't like condemned. With this kind of power, they could literally decide that since you are living in a house that doesn't have the type of insulation they like, they can send the sheriff to your house, throw you out, and destroy your house. This creates a "House Czar" with quite unlimited power in determining exactly how all houses are to be built.

[John Edward Mercier]

This bill imposes on the small / family farm with new and costly operations costs that are not forced on the corporate farms .. how an that be constitutional with equal protection under the law . As I see it the powers that ne are stopping us from providing are own food . 

I can't find anything about it in the bill's summary. Do you have a reference to the section?

[John Edward Mercier]

Ah, but now you will be required to assess such things, and after a few years, if your house does not meet arbitrary requirements, you will not be allowed by the government to even sell your house.

Might you be able to explain the cause of this concern? What is in the law that will require this?

There isn't. The bill (still hasn't passed the Senate) has several changes to current law.
From govtrack:
'Amends the Energy Conservation and Production Act to revise energy conservation standards for new buildings. Requires the Administrator to establish: (1) standards for a national energy and environmental building retrofit policy for residences; and (2) a building energy performance labeling program. Establishes a rebate program to assist low-income households residing in pre-1976 manufactured homes in purchasing new Energy Star qualified manufactured homes.
Requires the Secretary to establish a Best-in-Class Appliances Deployment Program. '
The Act as it concerned building insulation levels was changed in 1976 to include manufactured housing... then again in 1986 to establish the current standards.

Thank you for that. But I don't see anything in there that would lead to the kind of panic I sense in the post by Ogre. Do you? What would make him think that?

Many mortgages have some form of government-backing, so each time they change the standard a certain number of homes become impossible to sell without a retrofit.