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When Dick Nixon invoked Excutive Privaledge OR Begining of the End

Started by Jim Johnson, June 08, 2013, 09:18 AM NHFT

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Jim Johnson

From The Guardian

The Obama administration is invoking an obscure legal privilege to avoid judicial scrutiny of its secret collection of the communications of potentially millions of Americans.

Civil liberties lawyers trying to hold the administration to account through the courts for its surveillance of phone calls and emails of American citizens have been repeatedly stymied by the government's recourse to the "military and state secrets privilege". The precedent, rarely used but devastating in its legal impact, allows the government to claim that it cannot be submitted to judicial oversight because to do so it would have to compromise national security.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/07/us-government-special-privilege-scrutiny-data

Tom Sawyer

This can't be the case... It's all Obama's fault! A republican can't be responsible!

Oh wait a minute... fascist or communist, republican or democrat, the authoritarians claim whatever powers they need to further their control.


WithoutAPaddle

Executive Privilege has been claimed, with varying degrees of success, by former presidents or the administrations of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, George Bush-2 and Barak Obama.  It has consistently been the position of the Supreme Court that there is such a thing as Executive Privilege, but that the Court will be the entity that decides its applicability.  The article linked in the opening post does not mention Richard Nixon or allude to his presidency.

The article makes reference to just three instances in which the Executive has claimed a "military and state secrets" concern to be adequate to justify exercising the Right of Executive Privilege in refusing to honor subpoenas, but the article does not cite the relevant passages of the Supreme Court's rulings in those cases

Jim Johnson

Quote from: WithoutAPaddle on June 08, 2013, 01:50 PM NHFT
Executive Privilege has been claimed, with varying degrees of success, by former presidents or the administrations of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, George Bush-2 and Barak Obama.  It has consistently been the position of the Supreme Court that there is such a thing as Executive Privilege, but that the Court will be the entity that decides its applicability.  The article linked in the opening post does not mention Richard Nixon or allude to his presidency.

The article makes reference to just three instances in which the Executive has claimed a "military and state secrets" concern to be adequate to justify exercising the Right of Executive Privilege in refusing to honor subpoenas, but the article does not cite the relevant passages of the Supreme Court's rulings in those cases


I see an obvious connection between Nixon hiding behind his supposed privilege and Obama claiming the same.