arrested for wearing a t-shirt

[CNHT]

I love how we are arguing about an anecdote that happened during an event that should not happen, in a place that should not exist full of people who should not have the power and authority they have!
I have not watched a state of the union address in 40 years and I'll never feel bad about missing any of them except in the unlikely event that the entire building is leveled during the speech.

I'm glad you said it and not me. But it's the truth. Why do some of us harp on the minutest of details when there are bigger fish to fry? Right here in NH?

Of course if Lloyd says it he doesn't get smote, but if I say it......

[JonM]

On Wednesday afternoon, U.S. Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said neither woman should have been removed from the chamber. "We made a mistake," he told CNN.

He said an apology was made to Bill and Beverly Young, and the congressman has been told that Capitol officers will receive better training. He said they are operating under outdated guidance on House rules regarding demonstrations.

"Just wearing a T-shirt is not unlawful," Gainer said. Wearing a T-shirt and engaging in actions meant to draw attention to the shirt is against the law, he said, but neither woman was doing so.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/01/sheehan.arrest/index.html

[Fluff and Stuff]

Even the government say's it was wrong for making the arrest.  I guess several of the people on this board are more strick than the government     ??? 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/ap_on_go_co/state_of_union_sheehan;_ylt=Ahup96ymRgM7aZAiHIbXzEis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

[CNHT]

Even the government say's it was wrong for making the arrest.  I guess several of the people on this board are more strick than the government     ??? 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/ap_on_go_co/state_of_union_sheehan;_ylt=Ahup96ymRgM7aZAiHIbXzEis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

So there you go. It was a mistake. And why do we even care what Bush is saying? Ugh.....I would never even watch that stuff.

[CNHT]

So, free speech only for the people who agree with you?  Come on.  It was a government function.  It is subject to the people.  Not the other way around. Whatever we think of her, Cindy Sheehan is one of the people.

No I'm just saying it's out of context. Yeah, people should be allowed to wear any shirt they want, and no, it's not important to me to argue about something when I am doing the work of 20 pple here in NH. Just ask LilDog, who called me a 'machine'.   

[lildog]

(my wife is a far left liberal)

At the risk of derailing this thread, how does that work. Do you just not talk politics?

It's not always easy.  But we do agree on town politics.  In fact when I put together my list of cuts to recomend to the budget committee I'm on I run it by her.  I figure if she agrees then most others should as well (unfortunitly the committee usually doesn't).

State we also agree somewhat, not as much.  But federal forget it.  We usually don't talk national politics.  She puts her Kerry sign on her half of the lawn and I put my Bush sign on the other half (or whatever signs).  People laugh who know us but hey, what can you do.  At least we make ourselves happy in other ways  ...  (she can cook really well... get your minds out of the gutter!)

[Fluff and Stuff]

Even the government say's it was wrong for making the arrest.  I guess several of the people on this board are more strick than the government     ??? 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060202/ap_on_go_co/state_of_union_sheehan;_ylt=Ahup96ymRgM7aZAiHIbXzEis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

So there you go. It was a mistake. And why do we even care what Bush is saying? Ugh.....I would never even watch that stuff.

Maybe the completely unradical Underground members should run for office in NH  

[tracysaboe]

I love how we are arguing about an anecdote that happened during an event that should not happen, in a place that should not exist full of people who should not have the power and authority they have!
I have not watched a state of the union address in 40 years and I'll never feel bad about missing any of them except in the unlikely event that the entire building is leveled during the speech.

Tracy

[Russell Kanning]

So they kick people out for t-shirts now ..... some open government.
You know what? ............. Let's seceed!!!!!

[CNHT]

Yeah, people should be allowed to wear any shirt they want....

So, what is it about the above statement that you didn't like? 

[Kat Kanning]

Cindy Sheehan: What Really Happened

Cindy Sheehan | February 1 2006

As most of you have probably heard, I was arrested before the State of the Union address last night.

I am speechless with fury at what happened and with grief over what we have lost in our country.

There have been lies from the police and distortions by the press (shocker). So this is what really happened:

This afternoon at the People's State of the Union Address in DC, where I was joined by Congresspersons Lynn Woolsey and John Conyers, Ann Wright, Malik Rahim and John Cavanagh, Lynn brought me a ticket to the State of the Union address. At that time, I was wearing the shirt that said: 2245 Dead. How many more?

After the PSOTU press conference, I was having second thoughts about going to the SOTU at the Capitol. I didn't feel comfortable going. I knew George Bush would say things that would hurt me and anger me, and I knew that I couldn't disrupt the address because Lynn had given me the ticket, and I didn't want to be disruptive out of respect for her. I, in fact, had given the ticket to John Bruhns, who is in Iraq Veterans Against the War. However, Lynn's office had already called the media, and everyone knew I was going to be there, so I sucked it up and went.

I got the ticket back from John, and I met one of Congresswoman Barbara Lee's staffers in the Longworth Congressional Office building and we went to the Capitol via the underground tunnel. I went through security once, then had to use the rest room and went through security again.

My ticket was in the 5th gallery, front row, fourth seat in. The person who in a few minutes was to arrest me, helped me to my seat.

I had just sat down and I was warm from climbing 3 flights of stairs back up from the bathroom so I unzipped my jacket. I turned to the right to take my left arm out, when the same officer saw my shirt and yelled, "Protester." He then ran over to me, hauled me out of my seat, and roughly (with my hands behind my back) shoved me up the stairs. I said something like "I'm going, do you have to be so rough?" By the way, his name is Mike Weight.

The officer ran with me to the elevators, yelling at everyone to move out of the way. When we got to the elevators, he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car. On the way out, someone behind me said, "That's Cindy Sheehan." At which point the officer who arrested me said, "Take these steps slowly." I said, "You didn't care about being careful when you were dragging me up the other steps." He said, "That's because you were protesting." Wow, I got hauled out of the People's House because I was "Protesting."

I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up. If I had been asked to do any of those things ... I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct."

After I had my personal items inventoried and my fingers printed, a nice Sgt. came in and looked at my shirt and said, "2245, huh? I just got back from there."

I told him that my son died there. That's when the enormity of my loss hit me. I have lost my son. I have lost my First Amendment rights. I have lost the country that I love. Where did America go? I started crying in pain.

What did Casey die for? What did the 2244 other brave young Americans die for? What are tens of thousands of them over there in harm's way for still? For this? I can't even wear a shirt that has the number of troops on it that George Bush and his arrogant and ignorant policies are responsible for killing.

I wore the shirt to make a statement. The press knew I was going to be there, and I thought every once in awhile they would show me, and I would have the shirt on. I did not wear it to be disruptive, or I would have unzipped my jacket during George's speech. If I had any idea what happens to people who wear shirts that make the neocons uncomfortable, that I would be arrested ... maybe I would have, but I didn't.

There have already been many wild stories out there.

I have some lawyers looking into filing a First Amendment lawsuit against the government for what happened tonight. I will file it. It is time to take our freedoms and our country back.

I don't want to live in a country that prohibits any person, whether or not he/she has paid the ultimate price for that country, from wearing, saying, writing, or telephoning any negative statements about the government. That's why I am going to take my freedoms and liberties back. That's why I am not going to let BushCo take anything else away from me ... or you.

I am so appreciative of the couple of hundred of protesters who came to the jail while I was locked up to show their support. We have so much potential for good. There is so much good in so many people.

Four hours and 2 jails after I was arrested, I was let out. Again, I am so upset and sore it is hard to think straight.

Keep up the struggle ... I promise you, I will too.

[Eli]

Now if this had come from one of us I would hear the ovation begining right now.

[Russell Kanning]

Unbelievable ..... how she was treated.
Maybe soon she will give up on going through legal challenges.

I just realized ....... I missed the State of the Union address!!!!! I can't believe it.

Do they still do that "State of the Union Undressed" show on Comedy Central? I liked that one. Dennis Miller would crack me up.

[Russell Kanning]

Now if this had come from one of us I would hear the ovation begining right now.

:icon_dance:

[Eli]

Well aren't the new emoticons a hoot!