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What will it take for you to join the property tax revolt?

Started by FTL_Ian, March 15, 2006, 08:45 AM NHFT

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FTL_Ian

As you probably know, Kat and Russell in Keene have been refusing to pay property tax for over a year.  As of yet, they've gotten some cheers, but no one else has bothered to come on board with this idea.

What will it take for you to join in this powerful protest?

Is there a certain amount of other property tax revolters that you'd require before taking the plunge yourself?

I'm very likely moving to Keene myself this year.  After I get settled, this is very much something I'd also like to participate in.

It seems to me, the more revolters, the more powerful we become.

What will it take?

Russell Kanning


Fluff and Stuff

Well, I would have to own property.  That is 4-8 years off.  Then, I would have to see several cases of people profiting from not paying property taxes in the town I live in.

Russell Kanning

So you would feel comfortable supporting the schools and such?

FTL_Ian

Quote from: TN-FSP on March 15, 2006, 09:21 AM NHFT
Well, I would have to own property.  That is 4-8 years off.  Then, I would have to see several cases of people profiting from not paying property taxes in the town I live in.

Not paying property taxes does not create profit, it just avoids loss.

Fluff and Stuff

Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 15, 2006, 09:30 AM NHFT
Quote from: TN-FSP on March 15, 2006, 09:21 AM NHFT
Well, I would have to own property.  That is 4-8 years off.  Then, I would have to see several cases of people profiting from not paying property taxes in the town I live in.

Not paying property taxes does not create profit, it just avoids loss.

Ian, OK, I would have to see several cases of people avoiding loss (on the whole, having more money) from not paying property taxes.

Russell, I don't support welfare.  However, I would rather pay the legal min. in taxes and not go to jail than pay less than that and risk jail.  I think you will find that the majority of freedom activists have similar views.  Everyone is not as willing to take chances as you.  I am proud of you, but that is not enough for me to risk jail and loss of property.

Kat Kanning


FTL_Ian

I think the "majority" of freedom activists need to realize there is strength in numbers and get the courage up to refuse taxes.  Nothing worth doing is easy.

Or as Dumbledore said in the recent Harry Potter:
Now is the time that we must choose between what is right, and what is easy.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: TN-FSP on March 15, 2006, 10:46 AM NHFTHowever, I would rather pay the legal min. in taxes and not go to jail than pay less than that and risk jail.  I think you will find that the majority of freedom activists have similar views.  Everyone is not as willing to take chances as you.  I am proud of you, but that is not enough for me to risk jail and loss of property.
So how do you decide? Do you have to wait until a majority of freedom activists have the same view?
I can no longer support the evil government ..... so I don't.

FTL_Ian

How would you know what the majority of freedom activists thought?  That would be difficult if not impossible to determine.  A better question would be:

How many would have to lead for you to follow?

tracysaboe

If just 100 people agreed to do this, in an area the size of Keene, it would encourage others to do the same.

It would create a situation where "They can't get all of us."

Seriously. Kat and Russel could have this thing tied up in courts for years before anybody actually came to try and take their homes. If they had a hundread others clogging the court systems, and spreading out the efforts by local authorities, it would seriously deminish the government's efforts to force them to pay.

Plus w/ 100 people doing it, it would encourage others to do the same.

I don't know. Do you need to know that 98 other people will join you if you do before you stop paying property taxes?

That's kind-of where I'd probably be. I don't now though. I'm not in NH yet, so I hate to make promises about what I would and wouldn't do.

Perhaps Ian you moving to Keene and vocally refusing to pay will encourage other freedom lovers.

Tracy

Thespis

I'm confused about something. Russel and Kat, are you not paying any property taxes, or are you just not paying the education portion of the property tax? I got the impression from your mention on FTL a while back that you were only withholding the education portion, but here it sounds like you aren't paying any property taxes.

FrankChodorov

#12
also, because you live in a mobile home do you own the land too (many mobile home parks run this way) and thus are you subject to the land tax portion of the property tax or just the building portion?

president

#13
Haha.....they don't own the land....

So if they pay any kind of "rent" for the land their home is on, and the land lord pays the property tax, they are giving money to pay the property tax.  :P

FTL_Ian

That could be troublesome.  Doesn't that mean if the govt puts pressure on the landowner, that you guys could be evicted?