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Smoking in public

Started by Dreepa, March 24, 2006, 01:37 PM NHFT

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Lloyd Danforth

Like most things where people think the behavior of others is their business, smoking can be solved by the market. Businesses can allow or disallow smoking depending on who they wish to attract.  If a non-smoking atmosphere is so attractive, people that want it will flock to it, possibly willi ng to pay more.  People wanting to be employed in such an atmosphere will apply there, possibly willing to work for lower wages.
Nobody has the right to expectation of comfort in a public area.  If smoking, swearing, nudity, peircings, tatoos, loud music bother you, stay home where you have control over such things.

Happy Dude

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 25, 2006, 07:24 AM NHFT
Like most things where people think the behavior of others is their business, smoking can be solved by the market. Businesses can allow or disallow smoking depending on who they wish to attract.  If a non-smoking atmosphere is so attractive, people that want it will flock to it, possibly willi ng to pay more.  People wanting to be employed in such an atmosphere will apply there, possibly willing to work for lower wages.
Nobody has the right to expectation of comfort in a public area.  If smoking, swearing, nudity, peircings, tatoos, loud music bother you, stay home where you have control over such things.


This is so true.

Dreepa

Quote from: Happy Dude on March 24, 2006, 05:09 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on March 24, 2006, 04:26 PM NHFT
The solution to pollution is dilution.

Thats right then. Move to the country. ;D This thread is the most stupided thread I have ever seen in my life.

That is all we fucking need in this country is more social police and control.
Happy aren't you a Democrat? Your friends are helping pass HB1177.
If the Ban passes then all the smokers are going to stand in front of the business and you will have to walk the smokers gauntlet.

I do live in the country.  I was trying to see what a rational response would be.
Instead I got lots of douchebaggery. (new word).

Although I got a few answers.  Sometimes people post threads so that they can learn.  I am not saying I would ban smoking just asking a question. 

Unless you want to make NH like Calabasas, CA?

9thmoon

Washington State (I live there) just passed one of the most restrictive anti-public smoking laws in US History.  I voted against it.  I'm a rabid anti-smoker (can't begin to tell you how disgusting I find it) and I still voted against it.  Is this up for debate now in NH?

Pat McCotter

Quote from: 9thmoon on March 28, 2006, 11:47 PM NHFT
Washington State (I live there) just passed one of the most restrictive anti-public smoking laws in US History.  I voted against it.  I'm a rabid anti-smoker (can't begin to tell you how disgusting I find it) and I still voted against it.  Is this up for debate now in NH?

Was that Voters pass I-901: Prepare for a Smoke-Free Washington!?

Tobacco Prevention Program
Initiative 901 

Expanded indoor smoking law effective December 8, 2005

On Tuesday, November 8th, 2005, Washington voters chose clean air and overwhelmingly approved Initiative 901. The initiative amends the 1985 Clean Indoor Air Act and now requires that all work places be 100% smoke free. This means that on December 8th, Washington will join the growing list of smoke free states.

What does this mean for you as a resident or business owner? The information below contains answers to some frequently asked questions.

Frequently Asked Questions

Note: This web site contains information on Initiative 901, but it should not be considered legal advice and cannot be considered as a substitute for legal advice from and representation by a qualified attorney.

1. When does the ban take effect?
  The ban takes effect on December 8th, 2005.

2. Where does the ban apply?
Smoking is now prohibited in all public places and all workplaces.

3. How are "public places" and "workplaces" defined?
"Public place" means any place used by and open to the public, regardless of ownership and regardless of whether a fee is charged for admission.
"Workplace" means any area which employees are required to pass through during the course of employment.

4. So is smoking banned everywhere, even in bars? What about after midnight or in smoking rooms?
  I-901 bans smoking in public places and workplaces including but not limited to: bars, restaurants, bowling alleys, skating rinks, casinos, private clubs, reception areas and a minimum of 75% of rooms in hotels. There are no exceptions. The ban applies everywhere, all the time.

5. Is it true that there is no smoking 25 feet in front of any door or window?
  Smoking is now restricted 25 feet from all doorways, windows and air intakes of any protected space mentioned above.

6. How is that going to be enforced?
  Local law enforcement is responsible for enforcement of this rule with individuals. Keep in mind that a person passing by on the right of way (public sidewalk or street) while smoking would not be in violation of the ?25 foot rule.?

7. What is the penalty for violating the new law?
  The new law includes a $100 fine for violators.

8. What if I have questions about the new law or want to figure out how to quit?
  Give us a call at (206) 296-7613 or visit quitline.com for information on quitting.

This is a great leap forward for clean air and for the public?s health. We still have a great deal of work ahead of us in terms of educating the community about the new and law and developing a plan for enforcement. We want to make compliance with this new law as easy as possible. If you run a business and need help making the switch please give us a call at (206) 296-7613.

We can send you helpful information and even visit your business and talk through what the switch can mean for you.

If you have a concern about the ban or want to report a violation the quickest way to do it is to send an e-mail to tobacco.prevention@metrokc.gov or click here to use our online form. Give us the address and all the relevant information. We will follow up with you via e-mail unless a phone number or physical address is given in your concern. Keep in mind that the ban does not go into effect until the first week in December. Public Health can only enforce the law with the owners and managers of businesses. Local law enforcement is in charge of dealing with smokers who might be violating the law. Don?t take matters into your own hands.

Please let us know what you hear about the new law and send us questions and comments as well. We appreciate your feedback and suggestions.


9thmoon

Quote from: Pat McCotter on March 29, 2006, 05:52 AM NHFT
Quote from: 9thmoon on March 28, 2006, 11:47 PM NHFT
Washington State (I live there) just passed one of the most restrictive anti-public smoking laws in US History.  I voted against it.  I'm a rabid anti-smoker (can't begin to tell you how disgusting I find it) and I still voted against it.  Is this up for debate now in NH?

Was that Voters pass I-901: Prepare for a Smoke-Free Washington!?

Yes, that's the one. 

It had my predicted effect on smoking... instead of smokers politely going to designated smoking areas we rabid non-smokers can avoid, the smokers, now without a designated place to smoke, smoke everywhere and you cannot get away from it.  It was a miserable idea and bad legislation all the way around... selective enforcement... just ugh.