TSA at it again...

[PowerPenguin]

So be ready to resist. If I can do it, you can too. After all, I'm in college, and it seems that a lot of you all are in your 30s-50s, and thus considered less of a potential threat, in certain "authorities'" minds. Si se puede, amigos.

[aries]

So be ready to resist. If I can do it, you can too. After all, I'm in college, and it seems that a lot of you all are in your 30s-50s, and thus considered less of a potential threat, in certain "authorities'" minds. Si se puede, amigos.

Can't resist airport security, they've already given themselves the authority to arrest, detain and search people to enter the terminal and decide to forfeit their flight rather than be searched. Once you hand in your ticket, you have automatically consented to a search of your person and your belongings.

[Dreepa]

So be ready to resist. If I can do it, you can too. After all, I'm in college, and it seems that a lot of you all are in your 30s-50s, and thus considered less of a potential threat, in certain "authorities'" minds. Si se puede, amigos.

Can't resist airport security, they've already given themselves the authority to arrest, detain and search people to enter the terminal and decide to forfeit their flight rather than be searched. Once you hand in your ticket, you have automatically consented to a search of your person and your belongings.

Yeah but you don't have to show Id.  You don't have to take your shoes off.

[aries]

So be ready to resist. If I can do it, you can too. After all, I'm in college, and it seems that a lot of you all are in your 30s-50s, and thus considered less of a potential threat, in certain "authorities'" minds. Si se puede, amigos.

Can't resist airport security, they've already given themselves the authority to arrest, detain and search people to enter the terminal and decide to forfeit their flight rather than be searched. Once you hand in your ticket, you have automatically consented to a search of your person and your belongings.

Yeah but you don't have to show Id.  You don't have to take your shoes off.

maybe not ID, but I'm pretty sure when the security's red, they're making everybody turn out their pockets, take off their shoes, and they're searching through everybody's baggage.

Remember when it was just a walk through the metal detector and the baggage went down the xray ramp?

[earthhaven]

I was watching the news this morning and they estimate that GW's poll number are probably going to rise by as much as 10% because of this... to quote the Fox "news" anchor, "people are going to realize they still need protection from this administration." Hmmm, "Tell the people why they need us!" -V for Vendetta.

[FTL_Ian]

Yeah but you don't have to show Id.  You don't have to take your shoes off.

According to the news everyone was being told to remove shoes.

[aries]

I was watching the news this morning and they estimate that GW's poll number are probably going to rise by as much as 10% because of this... to quote the Fox "news" anchor, "people are going to realize they still need protection from this administration." Hmmm, "Tell the people why they need us!" -V for Vendetta.

I wonder if we'll still need protection after Fall '08... maybe Bush will use his power to give himself power to give himself the power to delay elections until the national security color has gone down to green, or maybe blue, and then retain power after the date the elections should have been.

[cathleeninnh]

Yeah but you don't have to show Id.  You don't have to take your shoes off.

According to the news everyone was being told to remove shoes.

Everyone is told to take your shoes off, but that doesn't mean you have to do it. Everytime I am told to, I say that I would rather not. All I get is a frown and then pointed to a chair where they grovel around my feet with qtips and then waved on. Much faster. Others are still fumbling with laces.

[Dreepa]

Yeah but you don't have to show Id.  You don't have to take your shoes off.

According to the news everyone was being told to remove shoes.

You don't have to take them off.  They have been telling people all the time to take them off.
Don't do it.  I haven't taken my shoes off in about 2 years.  I get the 'extra' security but sometimes that is faster than standing in the cattle regular line.

[PowerPenguin]

You can give them crap if you have a laptop and they tell you to take it out as well. Don't. It will piss them off and waste a lot of time. It seems to get noticed by the public also. Having some sexy anti-state bumper-stickers on it helps as well. Belive me, I've done it. I wouldn't recommend doing it when they are allegedly on 'high alert', but if not go for it. BTW, I was in the Reno airport a few mos ago and they didn't check me at all it was cool.

[Braddogg]

BTW, I was in the Reno airport a few mos ago and they didn't check me at all it was cool.

That didn't make you feel unsafe?  Hahaha.

[PowerPenguin]

No. On the contrary, I felt more safe than I've been at any airport in a long time! No government men with guns=good, as far as I'm concerned.

[aries]

But you could have brought weapons on to the plane and injured people!

Funny people are more scared of being shot in a plane, after all that searching, than they are walking down a street where anyone is permitted to have a firearm.

[PowerPenguin]

Not in this state! BTW, statistically, people are more likely to get hit by lightning, etc. than die in a terrorist attack. I heard this on an NPR radio show, though I've known about it previously. The "liberal media" is good when it comes to these topics in the sense that they are aware that such things are wrong, but they fail to do anything about it.

[KBCraig]

Updated information on removing shoes.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/13/D8JFMO200.html

Some Restrictions Eased at U.S. Airports
Aug 13 2:14 PM US/Eastern

By JOHN HEILPRIN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Air travelers were handed new rules Sunday, given permission to carry small amounts of liquid nonprescription medicine onto a plane and instructed to remove their shoes during security checks.

The shoes have to be placed on an X-ray belt for screening before passengers can put them back on.

The eased restrictions on medicine and the mandatory shoe removal were among several measures the Transportation Security Administration ordered Sunday in response to the thwarted terror plot in Britain involving U.S.-bound airplanes.

TSA had previously banned all liquid medications; now it will allow up to 4 ounces of liquid nonprescription medicine.

The alleged conspirators had planned to blow up as many as 10 planes flying from Britain to the U.S. using liquid explosives, which TSA's security equipment can't detect in carryon luggage.

In other measures, TSA said it would let flyers carry on low blood sugar treatments including glucose gel for diabetics; solid lipstick; and baby food. But it said all aerosols are prohibited.

On Saturday, the TSA added mascara to the list of banned items, which includes baby teethers with gel or liquid inside, children's toys with gel inside and gel candles.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff reassured people things would only go so far.

"I don't see us moving to a total ban on hand baggage at this point," he told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday.

Chertoff said the government was putting "less emphasis on the nail clippers and the nail scissors" and more on training additional screeners "specifically to look for modern-type detonation equipment that might be concealed in baggage."

TSA said it wanted to remove any ambiguity from its procedures, particularly over the handling of shoes.

Until now, the agency has strongly suggested removing shoes for the screening belt, but hasn't required that.

Now, travelers must take them off before walking onto airplanes. Flyers can continue to wear shoes containing gel heels, but they must remove any sort of gel sole insert and put those into checked baggage.

Airport travelers also should expect to see broader use of police- trained sniffing dogs, TSA said, along with random gate inspections and bag searches. But the TSA is limited by law to 45,000 screeners at the 450 commercial airports.

TSA chief Kip Hawley said the latest changes were based on feedback from security officers and the public.

"We are maintaining the same level of security while clarifying interpretations in the field," he said Sunday. "These tweaks are aimed at making a smoother process at the checkpoint."

The changes offer the same level of security that has been in place since last Thursday, but is intended to minimize the impact on travelers, officials said.

Screeners have begun searching more carryon luggage by hand. They also are randomly checking passengers at airport gates to make sure that they haven't bought toothpaste or drinks at airport shops after going through a security checkpoint.

Passengers are asked to arrive at least two hours early to allow for the additional screening. Those traveling to the United Kingdom should find out from their about any extra security measures or precautions that might be required. Laptop computers, mobile phones and iPods were among items banned on British flights.

The nation's threat level remains the highest possible, "severe," or "red," for U.S.-bound commercial flights originating in Britain. All other flights operating in or destined for the United States remain at "high," or "orange."