Dada in Federal Court 7/17 .... leads to 4 days in jail

[Dan]

She seemed a bit put out by me asking, like this wasn't the first time she'd been asked the question.

What was their answer to your question?

[John]

Maybe when a person wants to CHECK ON THE RULES of this Railroad Game -with the chief engineer - BEFORE playing the game/getting on the train, and the engineer doesn't want to answer those questions, he just figures it is a little less embarrassing to just play with others?

We hear about/talk about "Show Us The Law."

Methinks Dada came prepared with questions about "the law"/The Rules of the Game, and just wants to know if everyone is on the same page.

Maybe sometimes black-robed-bureaucrats just lose paperwork?

[Kat Kanning]

What was their answer to your question?

I called the court clerk's office to see when Dada's next hearing is.  They said that before it's scheduled, a motion needs to be filed and then maybe some order issued.  Neither of those things have happened yet.

[John]

Maybe we should let that gang "forget" about this little mistake?

Maybe that is what the judge intended - until one badge & gun wearing ICE bureaucrat decided to flex his mussels, because he apparently has nothing important to do?



By "this little mistake," I mean THEIR MISTAKE.

[Russell Kanning]

I could see how that judge would not want to replay that last hearing .... next time there would just be more people there.

[John]

And many more - PUBLIC - questions about The Rules of The Railroad Game.

All aboard?  No???? Um, what did I do with that paperwork?

[Dreepa]

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Last I checked the case was called "David Ridley vs. United States"  I think -that sounds like an even battle!

It is probably US vs David Ridley.... they are suing you.

[Dave Ridley]

i am not into arguing law with lawyers but I'll argue the constitution with them since that I do understand somewhat, maybe a little better than some of them.  It trumps all the fed laws and rules anyway and they know they're wrong....   otherwise they would have answered back with a constitutional argument and maybe obtained my compliance. 

[error]

i am not into arguing law with lawyers but I'll argue the constitution with them since that I do understand somewhat, maybe a little better than some of them.  It trumps all the fed laws and rules anyway and they know they're wrong....   otherwise they would have answered back with a constitutional argument and maybe obtained my compliance. 

(Warning, we're going into goddamned piece of paper land again.)

There's something you need to know before you walk into the courtroom again -- or for that matter, before anyone else does.

You may believe that the Constitution trumps all other laws, and that may even be true, but in the minds of federal judges, court decisions trump the Constitution.

[Kat Kanning]

Still nothing from the court?  Sure seems like Ridley backed them down.

[d_goddard]

I'll argue the constitution with them since that I do understand somewhat, maybe a little better than some of them.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but they don't agree with you on that point!

[error]

I'll argue the constitution with them since that I do understand somewhat, maybe a little better than some of them.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but they don't agree with you on that point!

You may believe that the Constitution trumps all other laws, and that may even be true, but in the minds of federal judges, court decisions trump the Constitution.

[Kat Kanning]

It's been one month, and no word from the court.  I'm declaring Dada the winner in the next issue of the KFP.

[Dave Ridley]

You know you're in a revolution when you get re-threatened with 30 days in jail and forget to mention it for three days...

Anyhow last week I received a notice from the dept. of justice indicating i will probably have to appear at a petty violations docket in mid july, to show cause why I shouldn't be held in contempt of court for refusing to pay the $125 "distribution of handbills" fine.

kat has a copy of the scan of it and kat you are welcome to post it here.

This remains, what it always has been, a good hill to die on.

[penguins4me]

Such hoops to make a subject show respect for authoritah! ... Wonder how much all these court sessions cost them, not that I expect money-making to be the goal here.

They want an answer for why you won't submit to punishment - it seems that your answer that the court has no authority to fine you for petitioning for the redress of grievances wasn't acknowledged? Did they even bother trying to explain why they think they are in the right?