Nevada rejects marijuana legalisation, bans smoking, raises minimum wage

[burnthebeautiful]

Congratulations Nevada, you managed to vote anti-freedom on all 3 issues. I'm seriously disappointed at this state right now. They had the option of becoming more free, yet they didn't even manage to keep the status quo, they got worse. I used to think Nevada was a serious competitor to New Hampshire, not anymore.

Nevada passed question 5, banning smoking in almost all workplaces, including restaurants and bars. Exemption for casino's that only allow 21+ guests.

Nevada passed question 6, raising the minimum wage to $6.15 if the employer does not provide health benefits, employers can still pay the federal minimum of $5.15 if health benefits are provided.

Nevada rejected Question 7, that would make it legal to make, sell and posses marijuana.

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So much for my trip to Las Vegas.

[Forastero]

They ban smoking? Are you kidding me? Huh, more and more it looks like NH will be the last stronghold of freedom in the US.

[tracysaboe]

S Dakota's initiative all went South too. Tax on Cigs (Not that I smoke. I don't) went up $1 and $1.25 on large packs.

People voted against repealing the cell phone tax. (Again. Not that I own a cell phone. But maybe I would if their wasn't this tax on it. The tate shamelessly propaganded that cell phone companies want the state to raise property taxes to pay for the cellphone companies'  tax liabilities. Marxist thinking to the core. And the voters bought it.) 

People voted against Medical Marijuana by a very narrow margin. (About 1000 votes. If my wife had voted it might have been 999 but still defeated. Amy doesn't really believe in voting.)

The gay marriage ammandment passed Even though it doesn't just ban gay marriage but also banned common law marriage and every other kind of quasi-marital relationship. So, at least the way it was worded in our state, the law is even more draconian then a simple gay marriage ban -- which is already illegal in this state.

The initiatives themselves were all writen in a very biased manner.

Anyway, got to go. Can't type too much.

TRacy

[burnthebeautiful]

I'm on a pro-smoking ban mailing list, they send out an email whenever somewhere bans smoking. It's a good service, too bad it's coming from the people on the wrong side of the argument. Ohio, Arizona and Nevada all passed bans on election night.

I'm getting conflicting information about the Nevada smoking ban. Some websites are saying it's for bars, some websites are saying it's only for restaurants. Some are saying it includes casino's, some are saying it doesn't...

Here's a summary from http://www.vote-smart.org/election_ballot_measures_detail.php?ballot_id=M000001341

SUMMARY

The proposed amendment, if passed, would prohibit smoking tobacco within indoor places of employment including the following locations: child care facilities; movie theaters; video arcades; government buildings; public places; malls; retail establishments; all parts of grocery stores; all bars with a food-handling license; and all indoor restaurants. Smoking tobacco would also be prohibited within school buildings and on school property.

Smoking tobacco would continue to be allowed at the following locations: areas within casinos where loitering by minors is prohibited; stand-alone bars, taverns and saloons; strip clubs or brothels; retail tobacco stores; and private residences, including a private residence that serves as an office workplace. A stand-alone bar, tavern or saloon means an establishment devoted primarily to the sale of alcohol, in which food service is limited to the sale of prepackaged food items that are exempt from Nevada food-handling license requirements.

The proposed amendment would also allow a county, city or town to adopt tobacco control measures stricter than those provided in the text of the Question itself.

The proposed amendment would also require "no smoking" signs to be conspicuously posted at locations where smoking tobacco is prohibited.

[KurtDaBear]

Californians, oddly enough, rejected a massive increase in the Cigarette tax ($2.60/pk.) and also rejected a multi-billion alternative fuels tax on the state's oil producers/refiners.
Unfortunately, the Golden State's voters mostly stuck to form by passing half a dozen new bond proposals that put the state another $100 Billion in debt and rejecting a proposal to strengthen eminent domain proctection and related property rights.

[Ruger Mason]

They ban smoking? Are you kidding me? Huh, more and more it looks like NH will be the last stronghold of freedom in the US.

Sorry to break it to you, but New Hampshire will ban smoking this session with 100% certainty.  We lost a major battle this year.  Democrats now control every branch of government in New Hampshire by huge margins.

[burnthebeautiful]

Yeah, a smoking ban in NH is pretty much a certainty at this point. Sadly, the last state to ban smoking won't be a state that fights the most, it'll just be whatever random state that doesn't get to it very quickly.

[Atlas]

Way to go Nevada!

[d_goddard]

Remember this lesson, and remember it well, for the naysayers will do everything in their power to demoralize you and break your spirit over the next few weeks.

NH IS THE PLACE TO FIGHT.

It is not about what state "is already" free -- it's about where in the US we can most effectively fight for freedom.
The line in the sand is already drawn. Here is where we stand.

Those who desire freedom will be asked to do more in the next two years, MUCH more than has been done so far.
Are you up to the fight?

I sure the hell am.

[slim]

This is just another reason to Fall back to NH and make the final stand for freedom. You could also look at this as a way to increase FSP recruiting in Nevada.


Note: I am not calling for a violent last stand.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Of all the more pro-freedom states in the nation, NV did the worst in the election.  ID seemed to have the best outcome.  WY and AK did ok.  SD and NH have serious issues to fight with... I guess that is about the entire list of remotely pro-freedom states in the US.

[KurtDaBear]

If Ruger Mason's analysis is correct, NH may be about to begin suffering from the same problem NV is having, i.e., a bunch of newcomers moving into the southern part of the state for the freedom, then destroying what they came for.
Most of those tens of thousands of new houses built in the Las Vegas area over the past few years were for immigrants (legal, unfortunately) from Calif.  I suspect that is what's tipping the balance toward P/C liberal results in NV.
I see similarities in the "Mass." migration to NH.

[d_goddard]

If Ruger Mason's analysis is correct

It's not:
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=12695.msg163586#msg163586

[KurtDaBear]

Thanks for the link to Jason's information.  I appreciate the encouragement.  I'd hate to move all that way in a year or two and then find out I'd jumped from the frying pan into the fire.