Smoking pot: misdemeanor. Eating it: felony!

[Spencer]

The police here (Portland, Oregon) grab my clients by the jaw, applying a "bureau approved hold," that involves squeezing a person's jaw at the mandibular joint, shouting, "Spit it out, spit it out!"  This, of course, is only done to suspected crack users in downtown.

[KBCraig]

I thought so too.  I figured something like the heimlick manuever or something like it to get him to caugh up.

The police here (Portland, Oregon) grab my clients by the jaw, applying a "bureau approved hold," that involves squeezing a person's jaw at the mandibular joint, shouting, "Spit it out, spit it out!"  This, of course, is only done to suspected crack users in downtown.

There's a third element: pinch the nostrils shut. The choice to "spit and breath, or suffocate" is quite a motivator.

That technique doesn't fall into the category of "positive reinforcement".

[Lloyd Danforth]

The cop who gets close enough to me to squeeze my nostrils is going to spend the rest of his life Blind.

[LiveFree]

Seems like a completely inappropriate level of force to grab someone by the jaw or to try to suffocate them.

[Spencer]

Seems like a completely inappropriate level of force to grab someone by the jaw or to try to suffocate them.

In the war on drugs, no level of force is inappropriate.

[Lloyd Danforth]

"Hey!  We'll brake your fucking jaw!   It's for the kids!"

[LiveFree]

Seems like a completely inappropriate level of force to grab someone by the jaw or to try to suffocate them.

In the war on drugs, no level of force is inappropriate.

Have you become aware of any civil suits coming up as a result of these sorts of heavy handed tactics?  Any criminal cases dismissed because of it?

[Spencer]

Seems like a completely inappropriate level of force to grab someone by the jaw or to try to suffocate them.

In the war on drugs, no level of force is inappropriate.

Have you become aware of any civil suits coming up as a result of these sorts of heavy handed tactics?  Any criminal cases dismissed because of it?

Civil suits: No.

Criminal cases dismissed: Occasionally, but not due to the outrageous governmental conduct, rather due to suppression motions being granted (when the police lacked probable cause to conduct a "search").