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Russell arrested 3/6/07 for having no "papers"

Started by Kat Kanning, March 06, 2007, 08:37 PM NHFT

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Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 09:43 PM NHFT
They let me go. I didn't have to sign anything and I told them I was not coming to the court date.
I told them my name and birthday. I didn't tell them anything else. They didn't fingerprint me. They let me go because they said I had not been arrested for this same thing already. They didn't really know who I was.

Odd, that. They just "asked" me to sit in the back of the police car, wrote me a ticket, and looked the other way when I drove off. But this wasn't in NH...

Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 09:43 PM NHFT
We live in a police state. We lasted 5 minutes with one light missing. I told them I was driving home and that I couldn't fix it tonight. It was not dangerous for me to keep driving down the road.

It's all about the cash. That's what they really want: your money.

YixilTesiphon

Well, this could turn interesting, though from what I've read it seems that they're going as slow as they can with y'all (being the folks who don't cooperate), so it'll probably be long and drawn-out. I wonder if they do that to minimize the chances of a groundswell of support around a specific incident.

Russell Kanning

#32
I thought the safest thing to do was to drive with our one headlight and fix it tomorrow. The cop thought it would be best to cause traffic delays to tell me it is a violation to drive without a headlight. He did not offer to fix it for me. He just wanted some money. Then he gave me paperwork that had nothing to do with my headlight.

d_goddard

Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 11:09 PM NHFT
I thought the safest thing to do was to drive with our one headlight and fix it tomorrow. The cop thought it would be best to cause traffic delays to tell me it is a violation to drive without a headlight. It did not offer to fix it for me. He just wanted some money. Then he gave me paperwork that had nothing to do with my headlight.
Russ, every time I am convinced you're a nutjob, you say something like that, and it makes a huge amount of sense to me.

I'm quite sure a private police force would fix it for you, or at worst contact your insurance and let them calculate, with the best available methods, the dollar value of the extra risk you present to their firm... or, should you not have any insurance, the road owners would quite possibly not let you on their roads.

But in no case would it be profitable for any of the above to block up traffic and haul you off to the cooler.

Between influences like yourself and Ian I am finding myself a self-described Anarchocapitalist on more and more days of the week. It's up above half the time now.

If this doesn't let up I'm going to wind up sounding like Dick Marple in 40 years' time. That would be scary.

Russell Kanning

Would you swing a u-turn, put bright lights on, and pull someone over if you saw them with one headlight out?
Would you mention it to them at a time and way that wouldn't cause traffic problems?
Would you demand to see paperwork?

Why should a cop do any different?

KBCraig

Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 11:09 PM NHFT
I thought the safest thing to do was to drive with our one headlight and fix it tomorrow. The cop thought it would be best to cause traffic delays to tell me it is a violation to drive without a headlight. He did not offer to fix it for me. He just wanted some money. Then he gave me paperwork that had nothing to do with my headlight.

And assuming the car wasn't towed and impounded after you were arrested, someone was allowed to continue driving it home with one headlight.


Russell Kanning


John

Glad to see they let you out, my friend.  So, it looks like a bench warrant will be issued this morning, and I'll probably be coming out to Keene sooner than I thought.

I was telling a guy who would not normally even think about questioning something like a driver's license about this. ... When I asked him who had been harmed he said, "Good point."

It is VERY CLEAR that some folks start waking up quickly when they see who the REAL TROUBLE MAKERS are.  This fellow saw right away that Russell had harmed no one, and yet Russell is being harmed by the government.

coffeeseven

Common sense says that each and every one of us should take it to court and make the cop try to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we had fore knowledge of the "equipment failure" and did nothing to correct it.

Then local memory kicks in. It won't do anything but waste time, energy, and no guarantee of the outcome because judges these days are very much the loose cannon.

Either way a loss. It's about the money, and control extorted by the man with the gun. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the mafia operates the same way.  ;)

Dave Ridley

just got word.  will probably call kpd

Bruehound

Most of the time I play in Denis' arena but while some people pay the "tax on fools"(lottery tickets) simply to have a 15 minute daydream, I find myself more and more dreaming of an anarcho Shire.

Thank you Russell and may God Bless your peaceful existence.


Kat Kanning


Russell Kanning

Quote from: John on March 07, 2007, 06:15 AM NHFT
Glad to see they let you out, my friend.  So, it looks like a bench warrant will be issued this morning, and I'll probably be coming out to Keene sooner than I thought.
I told them I would not show up on the court date, but I don't know when that is. So I don't know when they might issue a warrant and when they might drag me into court. Maybe they won't.

Lloyd Danforth

I gather you gave them your address.  The guy could have just told you your light was out.  He didn't need to go thru the lic & reg crap.


Russell Kanning

Quote from: John on March 07, 2007, 06:15 AM NHFT
I was telling a guy who would not normally even think about questioning something like a driver's license about this. ... When I asked him who had been harmed he said, "Good point."
It is possible it could have been dangerous for us to drive, but that was not the case. We were driving in town and about 25-30 miles an hour. I was not hurting anyone and no one would have been safer if I owned a government drivers license.
It will make sense to a lot of people that I haven't hurt anyone.