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You have the right to remain topless

Started by error, March 13, 2007, 05:36 PM NHFT

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lastlady

Okay New Hampshire watch out!!! Cause I will let them loose on yeah!


Rochelle

There's at least a nudist hang out on Rt 125 heading to Barrington. I drove by it on my  way to Calef's Country Store. It was closed for the winter though ;)

error

Quote from: Rochelle on March 21, 2007, 07:06 PM NHFT
There's at least a nudist hang out on Rt 125 heading to Barrington. I drove by it on my  way to Calef's Country Store. It was closed for the winter though ;)

You CAN be nude in the winter! Where do you think naked snow angels come from? Or you can just be nude indoors, where there's heat.

TheLibertyZombie


<<So it is that in New York City, one of the few places it's still (apparently) legal for women to be topless in public, that some women went and exercised that right.>>

weeheeee!!!!

MaineShark

Quote from: lastlady on March 19, 2007, 04:05 PM NHFTMy sister was hiking in a some what secluded area in the Santa Monica mountains in Los Angeles county. She found a small pond off the hiking trail  and decided to jump in for a dip. She took off her clothes and jumped in. Out of nowhere a sheriff came out of the bush and issuesd her a citation. Keep in mind there was no one around. I always tell people this story when they say they live in a "free country". On another level it makes one really think about the world we live in when a beautiful woman is cited, humiliated and punished for enjoying the earth, celebrating the beauty of her home in her most nature state.

The NH statute for indecency is Title LXII, Chapter 645, Section 1:
645:1 Indecent Exposure and Lewdness. ?
    I. A person is guilty of a misdemeanor if such person:
       (a) Fornicates, exposes his or her genitals or performs any other act of gross lewdness under circumstances which he or she should know will likely cause affront or alarm.
(sentencing provisions ommitted, emphasis added)

So, if that happened in NH, and the pond was secluded enough, I think one could argue the case on the grounds that the secluded location made it unlikely to cause "affront or alarm."

Of course, genitals are not breasts, so toplessness is legal.  Of interest, as well, a case in Maine was thrown out on the grounds that the two women who were streaking did not actually expose their genitals, due to the primarily-internal nature of the female genitalia.  They represented themselves in court, and simply asked the officer who arrested them if he had seen their genitals.  When he said "no," the case was dismissed by the judge.

On the other hand, I suppose an individual town could pass a stricter law, so it's up to you to research your local statutes.  However, NH state law specifically prohibts towns from declaring breastfeeding to be indecent.

Quote from: lildog on March 20, 2007, 10:07 AM NHFTRainey raised an interesting question.  Since apparently in NY women can still go topless and in that town in VT there is no laws against public nudity, what would happen if you were taking a picture of your friend and standing behind them was a topless or nude underage woman.  Would you now be in possession of child porn?

Or taking it one step further, lets say a news web site actually covered such events and being on the web felt they could show pictures of the people nude in the parking lot.  Again, if you click on the news story and hence download those pictures which may contain underage people are you now a sex offender with child porn on your computer?

Based on my understanding of current laws, yes you would be.

"Child pornography" generally has to be sexual ("lewd," "lascivious") in nature.  So simple nudity does not qualify.  Chapters 649-A, 649-B, and 650 in the NH RSA's seem to apply, but this isn't my field of expertise, so don't quote me on it.

Joe

PassionatePantherrr

Hrmmm... Let's see. I'm planning on visiting Cedar Waters this summer, and I've been topless at beaches/lakeside/bathhouses in NH, VT, CT, MA, NY, FL, PA, OH, VA, CA, Ontario, Quebec, and in Nassau/Bahamas. I've been to a nude wedding, where I was complimented on my rainbow-toe-socks (which was followed by a textile wedding the next day). I think it'd be nice to form a AANR -FSP branch, or at least have events with either the landed or non-landed club here in NH... Who's game? ;-)

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: MaineShark on March 26, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT
the two women who were streaking did not actually expose their genitals, due to the primarily-internal nature of the female genitalia. 

I guess Cartwheels are out of the question

PassionatePantherrr

There's also an online group mostly in MA and CT, but sometimes further north:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/merrimackvalleynudists/

Beth221

Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on March 26, 2007, 10:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: MaineShark on March 26, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT
the two women who were streaking did not actually expose their genitals, due to the primarily-internal nature of the female genitalia. 

I guess Cartwheels are out of the question

But cartwheels are the best naked!!!

Lloyd Danforth

I'm sure they are wonderful to behold, but, ya got that pesky, Genitalia clause in the law.  I wouldn't turn anyone in.

MaineShark

Quote from: Beth221 on March 20, 2007, 06:54 PM NHFTbut a topless party might be a fine idea, if Nipple Tape was acceptable!

Why tape?  Do they fall off if not secured? ??? :o ;D

Joe

Beth221

yes mine are detachable!  Its an aftermarket kit i got for christmas! 



eques

Beth, do you have any other mods?

Spinnas, perhaps?

SAK

lol good thread to lighten up the day.  When I make it out there and build my house, we can throw some topless parties for sure -- chicks only tho and i'll have to run the idea by the gf :D


I've been giving this some thought.  I will have to give it a lot more thought too I'm sure.  I'm not really offended by topless women.  Actually it can be kind of pleasant (unless, well...there are exceptions).  I don't think it would bother me too much either if I were to have children and they were exposed to it.

I'm just wondering where the line of decency is drawn.  Indeed no one is getting "hurt" by it.  But you could say that about complete nudity as well.  But as always, people will "push" it to matter what.  The libertarian non-coercion advocate I am says leave them be if no one is hurt.  But I certainly wouldn't want to be walking down the street with my children and have them see people "doing it" in plain sight.  Heck, I don't think I'd want my daughter to be exposed to penises all over either.

It seems simple enough to judge that sexual acts in public are a bad thing.  Does everyone agree with this?  I would have to look into ancient civilizations (the NATURAL type) and try to see the "sex laws" they had.  Hmmmmmm.  In the mean time, I won't be offended by boobies in public  ;)