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Started by d_goddard, July 15, 2007, 02:38 PM NHFT

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Russell Kanning



d_goddard


Russell Kanning

yea those retirees have voted us a great little government over the last few years

KBCraig

Retirees suffer greater harm from rising property taxes, which is good motivation for them to help keep them low.

On the other hand, retirees tend to be less affected by income tax, so they could decide to keep spending high, and replace property taxes with income taxes.

Bottom line: don't entrust political power to anyone who votes based on their personal financial bottom line. When we achieve a free state (or a free non-state), the financial benefit will be a bonus. But the motivator should always be Freedom.

d_goddard

Quote from: Russell Kanning on July 15, 2007, 09:47 PM NHFT
yea those retirees have voted us a great little government over the last few years
The libertarian ones have tried to make government smaller.
The statist ones have not.
The point is, porcs who are politically active *and can run for State Rep* are very effective at reducing government.
Much more so than people like me who can't spend 3-4 days per week in the State House for 5 months of the year

Russell Kanning

in general ... this and the past generation of retirees have voted for and built the biggest government the world has ever known

d_goddard

Russel, I am surprised to see you using Collectivist terms.

In general... people with glasses have worked for more statism and bigger government.
In general... Christians have killed and tortured thousands.

Russell Kanning

that Russel guy might be a socialist

I think your first one is accurate.
I think your second one is generally wrong.

shyfrog

generally speaking, I think lawyers have been the most successful in building the biggest government the world has ever seen  :icon_pirat:

d_goddard

Quote from: shyfrog on July 16, 2007, 04:52 PM NHFT
generally speaking, I think lawyers have been the most successful in building the biggest government the world has ever seen  :icon_pirat:
Specifically speaking, our NH House of Representatives has more lawyers in it now than at any time in at least the past decade  :'(

shyfrog

Quote from: d_goddard on July 16, 2007, 05:59 PM NHFT
Quote from: shyfrog on July 16, 2007, 04:52 PM NHFT
generally speaking, I think lawyers have been the most successful in building the biggest government the world has ever seen  :icon_pirat:
Specifically speaking, our NH House of Representatives has more lawyers in it now than at any time in at least the past decade  :'(

I'm outraged.
Isn't there a group of people somewhere working to make government (and their lawyers) smaller and more responsive?
Perhaps even a group of people that would go so far as to say that none of them are really needed?
Anyone?
:icon_pirat:


d_goddard

Quote from: shyfrog on July 16, 2007, 07:27 PM NHFT
Isn't there a group of people somewhere working to make government (and their lawyers) smaller and more responsive?
Perhaps even a group of people that would go so far as to say that none of them are really needed?
Plenty of people are willing to jaw-jaw about government shrinking or even (gasp) going away.

A small but growing group of people are putting in the hard work required -- by reading (and rating) the bills, and convincing the Legislature to divest itself of power, issue by issue, one step at a time.

A very, very few people have the financial and personal flexibility to take the most direct, potent step -- working to become a Legislator themselves, and then sponsor legislation to radically and concretely reduce government power.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: shyfrog on July 16, 2007, 07:27 PM NHFTI'm outraged.
Isn't there a group of people somewhere working to make government (and their lawyers) smaller and more responsive?
Perhaps even a group of people that would go so far as to say that none of them are really needed?
Anyone?
:icon_pirat:


I thought that was us.
I am sure all of that is a Plank in the Pirate Party Platform