"Zeitgeist"--the Movie

[KBCraig]

I gave it 5 minutes before I killed it.  Thats 5 whole minutes I wont be getting back.

You passed the test, by failing theirs. 

[error]

I gave it 5 minutes before I killed it.  Thats 5 whole minutes I wont be getting back.

The same thing happened to me. Apparently they don't actually start the movie until about 6 minutes in. It's supposed to, uh, set a mood or something. I just got pissed off because the first five minutes sucked so much. But at least I didn't pay for it.

[Friday]

The film maker, Peter J is interviewed on the air, for the first time since releasing his work: http://truthorlies.org/06-28-07-Hour-2.mp3

Thanks for the link; I just got around to listening to the interview.  I had suspected that the narrator of part I was the filmmaker. 

In this interview the filmmaker says, and I quote, "We have to get behind Ron Paul."  I'd really like to point your attention to a particular post on this thread, not because I have the slightest interest in getting into another he said/she said with CNHT, but because I have friends who care about the RP campaign and want to be sure they don't miss this:

I was sent email by this person who made this video, presumably because of the RP campaign, and I flat out told him it was not going to be helpful to the campaign in any way so I was not interested in buying a DVD.

I restrained myself from telling him it was a poorly put together movie that did not hold my interest past 2 minutes....

#1) The movie is not even being sold.  It's available for viewing, for free, on the Internet.  And the filmmaker is distributing DVD copies at cost http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/dvdorder.htm and encouraging others to recopy and distribute it.

#2) The filmmaker contacted CNHT, apparently in hopes of working together to promote the Ron Paul campaign.

#3) CNHT, who acknowledges that she only watched TWO MINUTES of the film, rejected the offer of the filmmaker's help on the basis of his film, which covers topics that would be of interest to many RP supporters, including the corruption and insidiousness of the Federal Reserve, the house of cards that is the U.S. banking system, the dangers of RFID, and efforts to implement a one world government.  FYI, in the radio interview he also refers to "the coup d'etat of 1913" and speaks disparagingly about the Council of Foreign Relations.

He mentions in the radio interview that he had a mailing list of 700-800 people just two weeks after the Internet release of his movie.  Who knows how big his list is now.  Someone who has actually watched the film and who is also working to promote Ron Paul (oh Dreeeeeeeepa) might want to send a quick email to zeitgeist@zeitgeistmovie.com and take advantage of this opportunity.  I suspect that, at the very least, he'll mention Ron Paul in an email spam to his mailing list.

Note: I purged *so* much from this post.  I may not be a good person, but hey, on a good day, I'm an OK person. 

Mercy is the mark of a great man. (lightly stabs Atherton with the sword) Guess I'm just a good man. (stabs him again) Well, I'm all right. --Malcolm Reynolds

[CNHT]

I was sent email by this person who made this video, presumably because of the RP campaign, and I flat out told him it was not going to be helpful to the campaign in any way so I was not interested in buying a DVD.
I restrained myself from telling him it was a poorly put together movie that did not hold my interest past 2 minutes....

Friday is quite correct, I did tell him that it was not something the campaign would want to distribute and I wanted to be honest with him.

#2) The filmmaker contacted CNHT, apparently in hopes of working together to promote the Ron Paul campaign.

I was not sure how this would get more people to support RP since most folks have the attention span of a flea and can hardly pay attention long enough to hear you give a bullet outline of Ron's positions. This film is more the kind of thing that intellectuals on this board like to use for philosphical discussions. I didn't see it is short or concise enough to be a campaign tool.

#3) CNHT, who acknowledges that she only watched TWO MINUTES of the film, rejected the offer of the filmmaker's help on the basis of his film, which covers topics that would be of interest to many RP supporters, including the corruption and insidiousness of the Federal Reserve, the house of cards that is the U.S. banking system, the dangers of RFID, and efforts to implement a one world government.  FYI, in the radio interview he also refers to "the coup d'etat of 1913" and speaks disparagingly about the Council of Foreign Relations.

This is all good stuff that current RP supporters understand for years via sources like books and being shortwave radio buffs. But like I said, it must be spoon fed to those who don't understand it and the film is way too long and drawn out and i did not think it was professional enough as witnessed by the impatience it causes at the beginning, described by myself and many others who tried to watch it.

He mentions in the radio interview that he had a mailing list of 700-800 people just two weeks after the Internet release of his movie.  Who knows how big his list is now.  Someone who has actually watched the film and who is also working to promote Ron Paul (oh Dreeeeeeeepa) might want to send a quick email to zeitgeist@zeitgeistmovie.com and take advantage of this opportunity.  I suspect that, at the very least, he'll mention Ron Paul in an email spam to his mailing list.

I am willing to bet those folks are already supporters.

Note: I purged *so* much from this post.  I may not be a good person, but hey, on a good day, I'm an OK person. 

I am certain no one thinks you are a bad person, least of all me.

Also, I'm not someone who is religious, but for the most part, common people use religion to try to improve their lives and I can't see bashing Christianity, even if we think the virgin birth is a myth. This would be too offensive for some. We are trying to get Christian conservatives on our side not alienate them. I think that if we want people to be self-sufficient and not depend on government we need to encourage their practices of their chosen religion not promote secular humanism because for some who hope for 'something else' after life, this holds no hope.

Of course we have some religions that were used for violence and conquest and I'm not for that. But I've been able to convince some religious individuals of how hypocritical their stance on death penalty is in light of their RTL stance and they have been able to rethink that.

[Insurgent]

The film maker has added an "activism" page to the main site, with a number of different action items:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/activism.htm

[Insurgent]

As an example of the grass-roots networking strategy in action, which happens when you take the approach of being open to other groups, one of the makers of "What A Way To Go: Life at the End of Empire" have endorsed Zeitgeist in a blog entry today 

http://www.whatawaytogomovie.com/2007/09/04/the-rest-of-the-story

[Insurgent]

An update: The film maker has finally added a detailed interactive transcript to the webpage http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

[Insurgent]

The film is also now available to view with different subtitles: Spanish, Polish, Slovak, Czech, Italian, & Portuguese.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

[Insurgent]

I have this movie if we wanted to make a movie night or if someone wanted to borrow it....  I think we had discussed this prior to my move. 

Yes, we should arrange a viewing of it. I own the DVD too and will look in to a venue to host it.

[Insurgent]

An addendum to the original film has been created and is available to watch for free online . I just finished watching it and give it rave reviews. It goes in to greater detail where the original left off, and also touches on a number of issues not addressed in the original. Highly recommended! Watch either or both films at http://zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

Launching soon is an activist site related to a movement rising up as a result of inspiration and transformation by ideas expressed in the two films. I am excited to see what it entails!
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/

[jaqeboy]

An addendum to the original film has been created and is available to watch for free online . I just finished watching it and give it rave reviews. It goes in to greater detail where the original left off, and also touches on a number of issues not addressed in the original. Highly recommended! Watch either or both films at http://zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

Launching soon is an activist site related to a movement rising up as a result of inspiration and transformation by ideas expressed in the two films. I am excited to see what it entails!
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/

This sounds great - I'll watch the new release ASAP. Maybe we can form a local chapter and help create a new Zeitgeist for New Hampshire!

[Insurgent]

An addendum to the original film has been created and is available to watch for free online . I just finished watching it and give it rave reviews. It goes in to greater detail where the original left off, and also touches on a number of issues not addressed in the original. Highly recommended! Watch either or both films at http://zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

Launching soon is an activist site related to a movement rising up as a result of inspiration and transformation by ideas expressed in the two films. I am excited to see what it entails!
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/

This sounds great - I'll watch the new release ASAP. Maybe we can form a local chapter and help create a new Zeitgeist for New Hampshire!

Not maybe, definitely!

[William]

Love it, especially the get your money out of the banks plan of action.

[jaqeboy]

Wow! Watched a half hour of this so far - love it! I wonder how long this film-maker will live?