Student Tasered in Front of John Kerry

[coffeeseven]

Kerry wanted to answer too.

And no, this guy has no right to breach the rules of the Q/A session and hide under the guise of "free speech".

Any other of the Amendments to the Constitution you think should be killed?

Enjoying your rights at any given moment is not an abrogation of anyone elses. He had something to say and he said it. He got forced to the ground and tasered because they didn't like his tone around royalty. If you know anything about the Constitution you'll recognize that there is nothing that says you have to watch your tone.

We need to revive the ghosts of the real men of this nation.

[CNHT]

Kerry wanted to answer too.

And no, this guy has no right to breach the rules of the Q/A session and hide under the guise of "free speech".

Any other of the Amendments to the Constitution you think should be killed?

Enjoying your rights at any given moment is not an abrogation of anyone elses. He had something to say and he said it. He got forced to the ground and tasered because they didn't like his tone around royalty. If you know anything about the Constitution you'll recognize that there is nothing that says you have to watch your tone.

We need to revive the ghosts of the real men of this nation.

+1 for you coffeeseven

He was a little exercised but he didn't seem as if he was a threat...
Face it they just did not like the question.

[EthanAllen]

Kerry wanted to answer too.

And no, this guy has no right to breach the rules of the Q/A session and hide under the guise of "free speech".

Any other of the Amendments to the Constitution you think should be killed?

Enjoying your rights at any given moment is not an abrogation of anyone elses. He had something to say and he said it. He got forced to the ground and tasered because they didn't like his tone around royalty. If you know anything about the Constitution you'll recognize that there is nothing that says you have to watch your tone.

We need to revive the ghosts of the real men of this nation.

+1 for you coffeeseven

He was a little exercised but he didn't seem as if he was a threat...
Face it they just did not like the question.

Who is the "they" you are referring to?

[penguins4me]

III. He purposely causes a breach of the peace, public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creates a risk thereof, by:

Hm, don't tell the police who hang out near Murphy's Taproom that when Dada's scheduled to walk buy...

Pretty sure Dave didn't purposely cause alarm.

Quite true, but who's going to tell the police that?

("Buy" - I need to go back to school.)

[KBCraig]

What a weasel. A real man (meaning one who doesn't keep his 'boys' locked in his campaign manager's safe) would have stepped off the stage and demanded that the arrest stop right now!

Unless, of course, he really didn't mind that the hard questions were being deflected by the arrest.

Speaking of... did he answer the questions? Or just move on to the next questioner?


http://kerry.senate.gov/cfm/record.cfm?id=283508

09/18/2007
Kerry Statement on Florida Campus Incident

WASHINGTON D.C. – Sen. John Kerry issued the following statement today, in response to the arrest of a student at the University of Florida.

"In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way. I believe I could have handled the situation without interruption, but I do not know what warnings or other exchanges transpired between the young man and the police prior to his barging to the front of the line and their intervention. I asked the police to allow me to answer the question and was in the process of responding when he was taken into custody. I was not aware that a taser was used until after I left the building. I hope that neither the student nor any of the police were injured. I regret enormously that a good healthy discussion was interrupted."

[CNHT]

See toldya!

Not that I would stick up for Kerry, but there was no indication from him to remove the student...he apparently did not feel threatened.

[Braddogg]

Are you people saying someone should be allowed to go to an event and do whatever they want?  If I wanted to go on an hour-long diatribe that ended with a question about Timecube at a Ron Paul event, everyone would be fine with that?  After all, it's just "asking a question."

He did not deserve to be tasered and his question lasted about 2 minutes, no longer and was ON TOPIC.

So who gets to decide how long is too long?  I would say it's the event's organizers.  Since it was held at the University of Florida, it would follow that UF would be the one to decide how long a rambling diatribe at the microphone at their event is allowed to go.

[Braddogg]

Wow if I did not know better, I might have thought someone was being protective of Kerry!

Yes the kid tried to ask a few questions in one shot but there was no need to taser him and if he was MY kid, those cops would be sued, every last one of them, for brutality and punishment not befitting the crime.

They didn't walk up and taser him.  They repeatedly asked him to wrap it up, and when he refused his mic was cut, and he was told to leave, and he resisted, and then a minute or so later he was tasered.  It wasn't like the taser was how UF let him know his time was up.

[Braddogg]

Kerry wanted to answer too.

And no, this guy has no right to breach the rules of the Q/A session and hide under the guise of "free speech".

Any other of the Amendments to the Constitution you think should be killed?

Give me a fucking break.

[Braddogg]

And now, according to the police report, we find that my initial suspicion may be correct.  According to the police report, the kid calmed down the instant he was out of sight of the cameras, told the cops that he knew they were just doing their jobs, no hard feelings.  Then once they got in sight of the cameras again, the shouting and fighting resumed.

Of course it's a lie, though, because they're the fucking pigs

[KBCraig]

So who gets to decide how long is too long?  I would say it's the event's organizers.  Since it was held at the University of Florida, it would follow that UF would be the one to decide how long a rambling diatribe at the microphone at their event is allowed to go.

True enough, but are the organizers justified in using police force to control the contents of questions?

As the student pointed out, Kerry had rambled for two hours, so a two minute question wasn't excessive.

Braddogg, when did you transform into such an apologist for the police?

[EthanAllen]

So who gets to decide how long is too long?  I would say it's the event's organizers.  Since it was held at the University of Florida, it would follow that UF would be the one to decide how long a rambling diatribe at the microphone at their event is allowed to go.

True enough, but are the organizers justified in using police force to control the contents of questions?

As the student pointed out, Kerry had rambled for two hours, so a two minute question wasn't excessive.

The only justification for the use of force in this type of free speech situation is to protect the equal right of another individual. The most obvious example is when a heckler tries to shout down another speaker. Force is justified in removing the heckler.

In this case it is a judgement call. The reason why the mic was cut off was because he used a sexual explicit word not because the political nature of his question.

The better way to handle a question and answer session in a public forum is to have an organizer holding the microphone so they can control the "preface" to the question, the number of questions, and the amount of time. Sometimes the person being asked the question can take control of the situation and sometimes a moderator works better.

[Kat Kanning]

So being annoying in today's america means that the police tackle and taser you.  Lovely.

[Kat Kanning]

Was that Neal Conner carrying the Gadsen flag?

[Russell Kanning]

definitely