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Started by Russell Kanning, November 25, 2007, 05:40 PM NHFT

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Russell Kanning

Dear Subscriber,

Some people have observed, and rightly so, that I have been more
caustic lately in my anti-statist rantings. Several have suggested
that, while such anger at tyranny is justified, I should tone it
down a bit in order to win more converts. And they have a good
point, IF converting the masses was my goal. However, it's not
anymore.

I have seen enough from the masses of asses in this country that I
have no hope whatsoever in the majority ever having a clue, or ever
doing the right thing. In the battle for the hearts and minds of
the American people, the truth is absolutely doomed. The people are
stupid, and will always be won over by the empty promises of
security and free stuff offered by the tyrants. That is one reason
(of many) why the whole notion of "democracy" is bogus: it is the
mechanism whereby a majority of duped morons can, without a twinge
of guilt, forcibly impose their stupidity on the rest of us.

Luckily, changing the world for the better is always accomplished
in spite of the masses, not because of them. When I look at
history, I don't see many instances of logic and reason winning
over the general public. On the contrary, I see example after
example of the majority being short-sighted, idiotic, and self-
destructive, while a small minority fights against them to achieve
each little inch of progress. And most of the time, the stupid
masses condemn and destroy those few people able to think outside
the box.

Here is one little example of why I believe that making the
majority love freedom is a lost cause. In my last message, I sent a
link to a video of an American fascist in Utah tasering a motorist--
not for running away, or attacking anyone, but for asking
(rightfully so) "What is wrong with you?" to the power-happy psycho
with a badge. Here is the link for the video again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaMYL_shxc

After I posted that, there was an online discussion about it
somewhere, where someone asked whether the officer was justified in
tasering the guy. While some people had enough of a grip on reality
to answer "no," here are a few excerpts from what some of your
other fellow Americans had to say:

1) "The officer had every right to taser, the smart mouth, out of
control punk. Officers have be in control at all times, their job
is dangerous enough as it is."

2) "The guy was definitely in the wrong for not cooperating. So at
this point seeing the guy disobey direct orders while the officer
is outnumbered places that officer in reasonable fear of aggression
& in the RIGHT for using non lethal force."

(How does one person "outnumber" another person? Or was he talking
about the wife still in the car? And the guy showed no hint
whatsoever that he was going to attack the fascist.)

3) "Motorists who are a threat to PDs should be tasered."

There was no threat, though there was a bit of attitude: failure to
timidly bow to a control-freak Nazi, and worse yet, verbally
commenting (in a relative polite manner) on what a psycho the cop
was being.

Even one person who ultimately agreed that the fascist went too far
said that "The driver certainly should have known better than to
not do exactly what the officer said." And one self-professed fence-
sitter cited the motorist's sin as this: "The guy was given
instructions and he didn't follow them."

So there you have it. Failing to blindly obey "authority," no
matter what the command is, all by itself is justification to have
violence inflicted upon you. Notice that even the fascist-
apologists don't claim that the motorist attacked anyone, or tried
to run, but that he DIDN'T FOLLOW ORDERS, which is what the fascist
actually charged him with. ("O'er the land of the freeeeee.....!")

That is one little example of why I have no hope of ever converting
the masses of asses into being pro-freedom. They worship
"government" so deeply and profoundly that they are incapable of
seeing their delusional, cult-like superstition for what it is.
Having had political debates with literally thousands of people
over the years, I can tell you that for 95% of the people, it's a
complete waste of breath trying to explain the moral superiority of
a pro-freedom philosophy. And, in the dozens of "converts" I have
personally helped to "corrupt" over the years, I see no indication
that using more "civil" wording would have made any difference.

As I explained in a recent message about "inappropriate civility,"
for one to describe what the fascists do WITHOUT vehement
condemnation is to give the message that their point of view is
equally valid. It's not. It's horribly destructive, anti-human, and
evil. I will call thugs and fascists what they are, and NOT use the
euphemistic labels like "law enforcer" and "police officer." I have
no intention of helping with the state-worship epidemic by using
its delusional phraseology. I refuse to bend my own comments in a
way which might give any respect and legitimacy to the god-complex
lunatics who wear the label of "government." What these people
advocate, and what they do on a daily basis, is initiate violence
against people who have committed neither force nor fraud. And
everyone who legitimizes "government" violence is an accomplice.

Yes, I wish most Americans liked freedom, but they don't, and they
never will. If you prefer, you can characterize them as merely
"misguided," rather than personally responsible for the evil they
advocate. Either way, they are the problem. I have no intention of
making them feel better--of not offending them--while pointing out
the inherently evil nature of their belief system.

"The Matrix is a system Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you
are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen,
teachers, lawyers, carpenters: the very minds we are trying to
save. Until we do, these people are part of that system and that
makes them our enemies. You have to understand that most of these
people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly
dependent on the system, they'll fight to protect it." (Morpheus,
from "The Matrix")

Amen, brother Mo'.

Sincerely,



Larken Rose
http://www.larkenrose.com

Russell Kanning

the comments on that video are so similar to Lauren's arrest .... guys think you should just cooperate ... even if the cop is wrong

Tom Sawyer

When I was first read this post I thought it was you writing it... I thought gee Russell has finally had enough (as I've been somewhat feeling lately).  ;)

He makes a good point, except that I don't think we should give up on the rest of the people that don't see it to be as far gone as we do. Communicating is the most important thing we can do, even if it is not always appreciated or understood.

The other point I would make is that the people that take the time to comment are not necessarily representative of the larger group.

Russell Kanning

I also do not think that most people are hopeless. Society at large does change. I do agree that there is no reason to sugarcoat thug taserings.

kola

I think a lot of those posts are phoney and posted by shills and other gov-sponsonered  dillweeds. It helps strengthen the matrix.

just my paranoid view,
Kola

RangerProbst

Quote from: kola on November 25, 2007, 08:02 PM NHFT
I think a lot of those posts are phoney and posted by shills and other gov-sponsonered  dillweeds. It helps strengthen the matrix.

just my paranoid view,
Kola

Sadly, I disagree. I've meet more people than I am willing to admit that think videos like this are funny and that the guy is a dumbass for not obeying the cop.

coffeeseven

#6
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on November 25, 2007, 07:40 PM NHFT
When I was first read this post I thought it was you writing it.

I thought so too until I got to masses of asses.

Napolitano speaks:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8573646268892961143

Bill St. Clair

Sadly, when commanded by a gang member with a badge, there are three choices:

1) Do what it says
2) Refuse to do what it says and submit to whatever torture it and its buddies decide to dole out
3) Take it out and then run from or take out its entire gang

Bad, worse, or suicidal.

Hence, I avoid gang members with badges, like the plague.

cathleeninnh

We cannot quit engaging the masses. Change may only come from a minority. It may end up being one savior. But what if that one or few need MY experience or comment or support or encouragement to bring about that change? How do any of us know whether the next person we engage will be someone beyond hope or on the verge of greatness?

Cathleen

Raineyrocks

Quote from: cathleeninnh on November 26, 2007, 07:40 AM NHFT
We cannot quit engaging the masses. Change may only come from a minority. It may end up being one savior. But what if that one or few need MY experience or comment or support or encouragement to bring about that change? How do any of us know whether the next person we engage will be someone beyond hope or on the verge of greatness?

Cathleen

Beautifully written Cathleen. :)  I think sometimes we all need to hear encouraging words like yours when we start to feel like, what's the sense in even trying.  Thank you!

Russell Kanning

I meet way to many decent people to think there is no hope to change people's minds about this evil police state.
1000's of people have watched these police abuse videos ... and many of them are outraged.

Kat Kanning

The taserings will continue until morale improves.

penguins4me

I'd been getting all bent out of shape over the latest news of excessive taser use when it struck me (no pun intended): it's not so much about tasers as it is against excessive force used by those who have a badge and a bunch of buddies with badges.

Before the tasers, the god-complex thugs would just beat the tar out of you (and still do, at times). Now, because of some dirty laundry being aired over excessive force when it was limited to nightsticks and fists, apparently many police deparments now have a "you can taser them before you hit them" policy.

Doesn't really matter what tool they're using now nor what they'll use in the future.

Kat Kanning


coffeeseven

Quote from: penguins4me on November 26, 2007, 05:45 PM NHFT
Doesn't really matter what tool they're using now nor what they'll use in the future.

I don't know. I'm pretty exited about getting hit with the new toys. Small robotaser, shotgun no wire "electric bullet" taser, and my personal fave flying saucer overhead taser. (The former two are on the website, the latter is on Drudge)