Poly

[thinkliberty]

I am an atheist who supports marriage between a single man and a single woman, but I have poly friends and support their rights, gay friends and support their rights, poly gay friends and support their rights, and interracial couple friends and support their rights (which use to be a big taboo a generation ago).

I don't think people in the liberty movement are sexual aggressors that will use state sponsored or personal violence to force their views on other people . Who cares how another person wants to live their life as long as they are not hurting anyone else?

One of my best friends has 56 brothers and sisters, I always like going with him to his family reunions.

[Sovereign Curtis]

One of my best friends has 56 brothers and sisters, I always like going with him to his family reunions.

Holy crap! How?

[thinkliberty]

His dad has a lot of wives.

[shyfrog]

His dad has a lot of wives.

Interesting and fascinating.

On an earlier note...has anyone actually watched or kept up with the HBO series Big Love?
http://www.hbo.com/biglove/about/index.html

[SethCohn]

On an earlier note...has anyone actually watched or kept up with the HBO series Big Love?
http://www.hbo.com/biglove/about/index.html

Chris and I are big fans of the show.  And speaking for myself, I'm comfortable with whatever lifestyle choices our fellow porcupines wish to have... be it monogamy, polyamory, orgy, etc., so long as it's all voluntarily chosen by consenting adults.

[shyfrog]

And speaking for myself, I'm comfortable with whatever lifestyle choices our fellow porcupines wish to have... be it monogamy, polyamory, orgy, etc., so long as it's all voluntarily chosen by consenting adults.

I assumed this would be the view of most here. Voluntary contracts between consenting adults are voluntary contracts between consenting adults. 

Perhaps I am fishing for something...I don't know.

[toowm]

I assumed this would be the view of most here. Voluntary contracts between consenting adults are voluntary contracts between consenting adults. 
Perhaps I am fishing for something...I don't know.

Speaking as a monogamous heterosexual Christian porcupine, I'd be surprised if you received much judgementalism.
Speaking as someone who has viewed many personal and intellectual clashes in the community, I'd also be surprised if you didn't get any.

BTW, I was in the Salt Lake City airport having lunch yesterday and chose the "Provo Girl" pilsner over the "Polygamy Porter."

[shyfrog]

I assumed this would be the view of most here. Voluntary contracts between consenting adults are voluntary contracts between consenting adults. 
Perhaps I am fishing for something...I don't know.

Speaking as a monogamous heterosexual Christian porcupine, I'd be surprised if you received much judgementalism.
Speaking as someone who has viewed many personal and intellectual clashes in the community, I'd also be surprised if you didn't get any.

BTW, I was in the Salt Lake City airport having lunch yesterday and chose the "Provo Girl" pilsner over the "Polygamy Porter."

Ahhh Wasatch Brewing I like Porter

[thinkliberty]

That's false advertising, at 3.2% alcohol it's a lite beer.

You'll need more than a 6 pack for each wife, if you want to get laid. 

[Sovereign Curtis]

That's false advertising, at 3.2% alcohol it's a lite beer.

You'll need more than a 6 pack for each wife, if you want to get laid. 

I'm pretty sure a light beer is light not because of its alcohol content, but because of the number of carbs and calories.

[shyfrog]

http://www.wasatchbeers.com/polygporter.html

It's 4.0%

Not sold in regular stores or bars in Utah.

Yes, you can get 4+% beer in Utah at State Liquor Stores. I've seen Arrogant Bastard there as well as Duvel, etc...

[shyfrog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_the_United_States

Polygamy is a 3rd degree Felony in the US

Bigamy is a felony in NH

The Model Penal Code recommends that state legislatures write their laws so that polygamy is classified as a felony. Interestingly, the Model Penal Code (section 230.1) defines bigamy as a misdemeanor and polygamy as a felony. Having more than one spouse at the same time gets bumped to a felony if it is done "in purported exercise of a plural marriage..." According to Joel Feinberg in Moral Limits of the Criminal Law: "Righteously, flaunting ones illicit relationships, according to the Code, is apparently a morally aggravating circumstance, more punishable than its clandestine and deceptive counterpart."

[thinkliberty]

http://www.wasatchbeers.com/polygporter.html

It's 4.0%

Not sold in regular stores or bars in Utah.

Yes, you can get 4+% beer in Utah at State Liquor Stores. I've seen Arrogant Bastard there as well as Duvel, etc...

Wow that must be some good beer, the state of Utah wants a monopoly on it's sales. 

[shyfrog]

http://www.wasatchbeers.com/polygporter.html

It's 4.0%

Not sold in regular stores or bars in Utah.

Yes, you can get 4+% beer in Utah at State Liquor Stores. I've seen Arrogant Bastard there as well as Duvel, etc...

Wow that must be some good beer, the state of Utah wants a monopoly on it's sales.

Not to hijack my own thread ... but Utah has some financially ruinous laws against alcohol. Example: The #1 crop in Utah is Alfalfa. No really...Alfalfa. But the soil, water availability, and climate are not made to sustain such a crop.

So... what grows really well in the Utah desert valleys?? Hehe. Wine grapes. They require 1/5th the amount of water. It's much bigger cash crop. But Utah taxes it so heavily (50%+) that it becomes unprofitable.

Ok...I'm done now 

[CJS]

 

My wife and I agreed that monogamy was unrealistic  for us though neither of us has gone outside the marriage yet . A year or so ago she was talking about asking someone she has know all her life to join our family and I was really surprised to learn how many "poly" family's  there are when I started researching the topic are and how beneficial they can be .

Unfortunately most of the case law I find concerns men who have multiple wives but also are involved with forced marriage of very young women and child neglect . My question is if there is only one legally married couple but others join the family is that in fact unlawful ?

If three or more adults create a family structure and causes no harm to anyone within that group and need no monetary assistance from the taxpayers how is it the gooberments concern ? Why do elected officials have such a need to control us ? Lastly .. how do these ideas become law in a nation with a separation of church and state .. these statutes are  morality driven . 

Great topic !