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Started by Jim Johnson, October 14, 2011, 03:28 PM NHFT

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Obama Sends Failed U.S. Military to Central Africa

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/14/obama-sends-us-troops-to-central-africa-to-aid-campaign-against-rebel-group/?test=latestnews

WASHINGTON -- President Obama is sending about 100 U.S. troops to central Africa to help local forces battle the Lord's Resistance Army, a rebel group that the administration says has waged a campaign of murder, rape and kidnapping for more than two decades.

Obama said Friday the troops will act as advisers in efforts to hunt down rebel leader Joseph Kony but will not engage in combat except in self-defense, according to a letter to Congress that was obtained by Fox News.

The White House says the first troops arrived in Uganda on Wednesday. Ultimately, they will also deploy in South Sudan, the Central African Republic and Congo.

A senior administration official downplayed the notion that the armed troops could be drawn into a hostile, combat situation, saying the move was sparked by Congress passing a law year urging the administration to do something to crack down on the Lord's Resistance Army.

Long considered one of Africa's most brutal rebel groups, the Lord's Resistance Army began its attacks in Uganda more than 20 years ago but has been pushing westward.

The administration and human rights groups say its atrocities have left thousands dead and have put as many as 300,000 Africans to flight. They have charged the group with seizing children to bolster its ranks of soldiers and sometimes forcing them to become sex slaves.

Kony is wanted by the International Criminal Court under a 2005 warrant for crimes against humanity in his native Uganda.

Obama's announcement came in low-key fashion -- a letter to the leader of the House, Speaker John Boehner, in which he said the deployment "furthers U.S. national security interests and foreign policy and will be a significant contribution toward counter-LRA efforts in central Africa."

The deployment drew support from Sen. James Inhofe, a Republican who has visited the region.

"I have witnessed firsthand the devastation caused by the LRA, and this will help end Kony's heinous acts that have created a human rights crisis in Africa," he said in a statement. "I have been fervently involved in trying to prevent further abductions and murders of Ugandan children, and today's action offers hope that the end of the LRA is in sight."

But Obama's letter stressed the limited nature of the deployment.

"Our forces will provide information, advice and assistance to select partner nation forces," it said. "Although the U.S. forces are combat-equipped, they will ... not themselves engage LRA forces unless necessary for self-defense."

The troops deployed to central Africa will be mostly U.S. special operations forces. It's likely many of these forces will be Army Green Berets, one military official told Fox News, but it's unlikely that will be announced publicly.

Since 2008, the U.S. has provided $33 million to regional forces battling LRA, according to the Pentagon.

The Pentagon said the special operation forces are performing one of their core missions.

"Our intention is to provide the right balance of strategic and tactical experience to supplement host nation military efforts," the Pentagon said. "Ultimately, Africans are responsible for African security, but we remain committed to our partners to enable their efforts to provide for their own security."

Fox News' Ed Henry, Justin Fishel and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



Russell Kanning


Pat K


Jim Johnson

Quote from: Pat K on October 15, 2011, 11:53 PM NHFT
Hey, what could happen?
Probably nothing.
It wouldn't be like the far east, where the US trains a bunch of locals and then finds out they are working for the other side.
Or the middle east, where the US trains a bunch of locals and then finds out they changed sides.
This will be completely different because it is Africa; they won't pick up any of the dishonorable traits of the people who train them.
And probably, ten years from now will look back on 150,000 dead people and say, it was worth it.

Or maybe not.

Pat K


Alex Libman

In analyzing the history of U.S. military intervention targets, you'll find no significant correlation with the target population's skin color, but a very strong correlation with the most egregious violations of Natural Rights.

From the congressional bill:  "The members of the Lord's Resistance Army used brutal tactics in northern Uganda, including mutilating, abducting, and forcing individuals into sexual servitude and forcing a large number of children and youth in Uganda, estimated by the Survey for War Affected Youth to be over 66,000, to fight as part of the rebel force."

Are you disputing any of this??


Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 15, 2011, 04:36 AM NHFT
when will it ever end

When the world runs out of commies.  Duh!

And then we'll take down Uncle Sam.

Tom Sawyer

So I'm glad that Alex feels so strongly about this cause, he (I'm sure) will be spending his money and risking his life to right the wrong being committed. When are you flying over?

Jim Johnson

Be careful Alex, the reasons people say they are going to war is always different than their actual reasons. 
But have a good time, and remember you're fighting against God's Army in this war.

Russell Kanning

I bet he wasn't even meaning to go to war .... let alone himself.

It makes me sad the more signs I see of how many people are at war right now and all the damaged guys coming back to america

Alex Libman

I know that promoting libertarian gradualism and pro-capitalist geopolitics isn't very sexy, but somebody has to do it...

There are people in this world who initiate aggression on a massive scale, and, unless they cease, deserve to be smart-bombed, discredited, blackmailed, or otherwise contained.  In a free society this could be financed by charities, or by banks as a loan to the people being liberated.  In the meantime, Uncle Sam is a lesser evil.

I'm what they now call a cyber-warrior, and I've been involved in a few things pertaining to Eastern Europe.  I've never done much for Africa (with the exception of doing some development work for Missionaries Of Africa a looong time ago).

But this isn't about me, this is about libertarians having rational priorities.  Yanking on Uncle Sam's balls as he's about to rid the world of some commies is simply counterproductive!

littlehawk

Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2011, 08:00 PM NHFT
I bet he wasn't even meaning to go to war .... let alone himself.

It makes me sad the more signs I see of how many people are at war right now and all the damaged guys coming back to america

I read where military suicide rates are at an all time high. And huge numbers of soldiers are being scripted pyschotropic drugs for it..which we all know increases thr risk of suicide. And of course the corporate media rarely, if ever, reports these atrocities.

As Fogerty said "The devils on the loose..better run thru the jungle..better run thru the jungle.."


Alex Libman

It is capitalism that today's "peace-lovers" oppose and statism that they advocate - in the name of peace.  --Ayn Rand


A kitten sneezing in Russell Kanning's sight makes Russell Kanning "sad", but a billion people being oppressed by third world socialist dictatorships apparently does not.  He doesn't have to think about what the world would be like if all of Asia still resembled North Korea, or if all of Europe resembled Belarus...  Having been born in Moscow, I must say how lucky we are that some people in this world, and in USA in particular, aren't quite as nearsighted as Russell Kanning...


Quote from: littlehawk on October 18, 2011, 09:00 AM NHFT
I read where military suicide rates are at an all time high.

The military may (still) be paid for at tax-victim expense, but the soldiers are there voluntarily.  Yes, being a coercive monopoly the gov's army is extremely inefficient and makes for a very psychologically hazardous work environment.  The government is to blame of solders' depression, but the peacetards who misrepresent the wars are guilty in part as well.


Quote from: littlehawk on October 18, 2011, 09:00 AM NHFT
[...]  the corporate media   [...]

It's a crude yet effective litmus test - to distinguish people who pejoratively call the media "corporate" from those who call it "government-influenced".  The former are not true friends of freedom...

Jim Johnson

I don't think Russell gets sad when a kitten sneezes... unless he is holding it right up to his face when the kitty sneezes; when that happens to me I wonder if kitties are allergic to me.

Advocating war while opposing statism is contradictory; in the same way that advocating peace while advocating statism is contradictory.

Your original assumption is wrong, which invalidates anything else you said; I really couldn't get past your wrongful use of kitties.

Russell Kanning

I am appalled at his lack of concern for "the kittens".
I demand government intervention on behalf of the kittens.

Jim Johnson

Maybe the cyber-warrior can carry out a denial of service attack on the 'ticklee little things that get up kitty's nose' server... or hack the veterinarian main frame and get kitty some Benadryl.

That is if he is not to busy attacking huts in the Congo from the basement of his mother's house.