July 31, 2006: Russell arrested

[aries]

As a federal LEO, I could have checked my gun at the security checkpoint (they have lockboxes for LEOs)

Ha!!
In NH any peasant walking in off the street can check their weapon at the courthouse.

Not at the federal courthouse.

They had no problem with my knife both times I went there.

I thought you meant a gun

[KBCraig]

Uhm...  What kind of LEO are you?

Not the kind you ever need to worry about.

[Braddogg]

Uhm...  What kind of LEO are you?

Not the kind you ever need to worry about.

Suuuure, that's what they all say 

[Follow]

There is a kind I don't need to worry about?  Whew! 




Follow 

[Dave Ridley]

Just got a call from a person, who we'll call Fred, who doesn't want to post on the forum but wanted us to know this (I think it would be of most interest to Roger):

Fred says we absolutely gotta get our videos to Utube.com.  Short teaser versions of them, under 2 minutes.  I suspect 30 seconds would be even better.  Fred says this is a huge , hot happening place to get the word out and TV and newspaper folks can have their attention drawn by it.

[Dave Ridley]

finally got around to writing russell a note and will likely send it tonight.

i've called or contacted 8 people to invite them to the rally, and 4 have said they will try to make it, some of them people you haven't seen in a while or have never heard of!

also invited the union leader reporter and let her know about kat not being able to get info on russell's condition, told her he was fasting. 

The union leader reporter (same gal, Faith) actually called me, not the other way around.  She wanted to get our take on the fact that our forum is monitored.  I told her basically some people might be upset about it but I wasn't really; except that I thoguht it was a waste of taxpayer dollars for them to be looking at it on the taxpayer dime.   I said there were advantages to federal officials learning about the extent to which people think they've gone beyond their bounds.

She said she will send an article in but does not know if they'll print it.

[Kat Kanning]

Just got a call from a person, who we'll call Fred, who doesn't want to post on the forum but wanted us to know this (I think it would be of most interest to Roger):

Fred says we absolutely gotta get our videos to Utube.com.  Short teaser versions of them, under 2 minutes.  I suspect 30 seconds would be even better.  Fred says this is a huge , hot happening place to get the word out and TV and newspaper folks can have their attention drawn by it.

UTube is a good idea.  I suspect Roger has to make a living though.

[FrankChodorov]

It does seem that a person who doesn't legitimize their system has no hope for any justice. 

Come, come, now Caleb -- you do use the sidewalks and roads "they" used force to create, do yo not?!?

What are his alternatives?

understand the difference between collective property whose authority has been delegated and common property and individual rights held in common (speech, right of way, assembly, redress of greivances, etc)...

NO!  It is not up to him to understand what you claim.  There are no private walks or roads to use.

And whose problem is that?
If there are no private schools, you open one, or you homeschool, right?

common rights and property ARE individual rights...

[Dreepa]

Fred says we absolutely gotta get our videos to Utube.com.  Short teaser versions of them, under 2 minutes.  I suspect 30 seconds would be even better.  Fred says this is a huge , hot happening place to get the word out and TV and newspaper folks can have their attention drawn by it.

Tell 'Fred'  wow what is this thing called youtube?  We have never heard of it.

[FTL_Ian]

For those unawares:

http://youtube.com

[KBCraig]

There is a kind I don't need to worry about?  Whew! 

By the time you get to my jurisdiction, all the other LE agencies, the U.S. Attorney, and the judge have already had their way with you.

[KBCraig]

As a federal LEO, I could have checked my gun at the security checkpoint (they have lockboxes for LEOs)

Ha!!
In NH any peasant walking in off the street can check their weapon at the courthouse.

Not at the federal courthouse.

That's weird...why not?

Because that's the law. I don't like it, and I strongly object to it. But, here you go:

18 USC Sec. 930
01/03/05

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly
possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous
weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility),
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than 1 year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon
be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes
to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal
facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills any person in the course of a violation of
subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal
facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon,
or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be punished as
provided in sections 1111, 1112, 1113, and 1117.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to -
(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer,
agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political
subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or
supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or
prosecution of any violation of law;
(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a
Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such
possession is authorized by law; or
(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons
in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful
purposes.

(e)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), whoever knowingly
possesses or causes to be present a firearm in a Federal court
facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title,
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to conduct which is described
in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (d).
(f) Nothing in this section limits the power of a court of the
United States to punish for contempt or to promulgate rules or
orders regulating, restricting, or prohibiting the possession of
weapons within any building housing such court or any of its
proceedings, or upon any grounds appurtenant to such building.
(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term "Federal facility" means a building or part
thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal
employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing
their official duties.
(2) The term "dangerous weapon" means a weapon, device,
instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is
used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious
bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket
knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.
(3) The term "Federal court facility" means the courtroom,
judges' chambers, witness rooms, jury deliberation rooms,
attorney conference rooms, prisoner holding cells, offices of the
court clerks, the United States attorney, and the United States
marshal, probation and parole offices, and adjoining corridors of
any court of the United States.

(h) Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be
posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal
facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted
conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court
facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under
subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such
notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had
actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.

[aries]

Uhm...  What kind of LEO are you?

Not the kind you ever need to worry about.

National forest person then?

Oh, and Google is showing me satellite views of your house. Can't be that secret.

Edit: oh, more Googling and I found it. I'm not sayin nothin

[d_goddard]

Oh, and Google is showing me satellite views of your house. Can't be that secret.
Edit: oh, more Googling and I found it. I'm not sayin nothin

Harrumph.
I ain't impressed till you can tell me what color panties he's wearin'!

[Lloyd Danforth]

It does seem that a person who doesn't legitimize their system has no hope for any justice. 

Come, come, now Caleb -- you do use the sidewalks and roads "they" used force to create, do yo not?!?

What are his alternatives?

understand the difference between collective property whose authority has been delegated and common property and individual rights held in common (speech, right of way, assembly, redress of greivances, etc)...

NO!  It is not up to him to understand what you claim.  There are no private walks or roads to use.

And whose problem is that?
If there are no private schools, you open one, or you homeschool, right?

It is hard to compete with government roads as they can finance their's with stolen funds, and they control most of the good places for roads.