Dada in Federal Court 7/17 .... leads to 4 days in jail

[Kat Kanning]

Has anyone who's called the jail found out what date/time Dave will be released?

[Kat Kanning]

Is anyone planning on holding signs outside his jail before he gets out?

[d_goddard]

In my opinion, the most effective thing to do, is to 'push back' the enforcers of the laws.

That's attacking the hired musclemeat, who do as they are told and are not paid to think -- no matter what they're told to the contrary. BTW, hello DHS guys! Hope you're enjoying the read!

Surely it's more efficient to attack the "brains" of the outfit. A few dozen minarchists in the legislature can eliminate whole bureaucracies with a vote and a stroke of the pen. Well, maybe "brains" ain't the right word. "Ganglion" is a more accurate term. Same point.

Do be aware, the current NH legislature -- in stark contrast to the tradition of the entire 20th century in this state -- is creating whole new bureaucracies at a breakneck pace 
We're getting more agencies with the presumed authority to create rules backed by force than in living history.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[slim]

In my opinion, the most effective thing to do, is to 'push back' the enforcers of the laws.

That's attacking the hired musclemeat, who do as they are told and are not paid to think -- no matter what they're told to the contrary.

I think a multi pronged approach to the issue is the way to go. I think people working in the system to remove the laws and people from showing the force that is being used is the ways to go. D_goddard does make a point the people who are enforcing the laws are going to do what their bosses want and going after them is practically useless they have been conditioned to not care about suffering.

I like to think that what we are trying to accomplish is mowing a golf course with a pair of the scissors they give children in 1st grade. It may take a long time but if we all do a little bit in our own way it can be done.


P.S. If the DHS guys are reading this "Please release Dave Ridley immediately"

[error]

The point is not to overturn stupid statutes about distribution of handbills, it was to draw attention to the fact that the IRS does evil things to fund evil government programs.

Of course! But if you can ALSO overturn a stupid regulation along the way, then why not?

[EthanAllen]

The point is not to overturn stupid statutes about distribution of handbills, it was to draw attention to the fact that the IRS does evil things to fund evil government programs.

That is why Dave's action was ineffective. Did he even know what law he would be breaking before his non-violent, civil disobedience action? He seemed to think he was petitioning officials at the IRS for a redress of grievances which is in the bill of rights as amendments to the constitution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[EthanAllen]

Last year, he walked into an IRS office to silently and politely hold a sign and distribute leaflets to people in the lobby of the building.

Natalie,

Dave wasn't in the lobby of the IRS building, he was in the offices.

On his second arrest, Russell freely walked thru the lobby of the IRS building in Keene and up the stairs where he was arrested before entering the office because he verbally told the police that he was going to ask the employees to resign.

[freek_ish]

hey all . . .

this is dave's little brother steve.

just wanted to chime in and say thank you to all of you who are supporting him.

i know he would do the same for each one of you were the roles reversed.

i believe in what he's doing and i'm very proud of him.

i'm glad he has so many amazing friends out there.

let's hope that what is happening to him and others like him will not go un-noticed by the public.

truly,
steve ridley

[Tom Sawyer]

Last year, he walked into an IRS office to silently and politely hold a sign and distribute leaflets to people in the lobby of the building.

Natalie,

Dave wasn't in the lobby of the IRS building, he was in the offices.

On his second arrest, Russell freely walked thru the lobby of the IRS building in Keene and up the stairs where he was arrested before entering the office because he verbally told the police that he was going to ask the employees to resign.

Doesn't change anything... they will prevent you from handing out the papers in the lobby.

Hey Billy... maybe you and Richie should hang out in your own forum.  

Just cause some group of men gave authority to another group of men to write their own rule book doesn't make it right to lock up someone for communicating. Abusive governments through out history wrote laws.

[EthanAllen]

they will prevent you from handing out the papers in the lobby.

Correct. But as Russell's case shows, you have a right of egress thru the common lobby to get to the office if you are not visibly carrying handbills nor having told the guards that you plan on disrupting the business of the office.

[Kat Kanning]

Welcome, Steve!

[LordBaltimore]

Hey Billy... maybe you and Richie

First a racist insult, then a demeaning nickname.  Very nice.

If the only people who are allowed to post are those who march lock step with the party line, then the "Free" in NHFree is just a pretence.

[LordBaltimore]

Just cause some group of men gave authority to another group of men to write their own rule book doesn't make it right to lock up someone for communicating. Abusive governments through out history wrote laws.

I posted no judgment of the law in my message.  Someone asked what law was Ridley accused of breaking and I answered the question. 

[Tom Sawyer]

You moving to NH "Uncle Tom" Richie? 

You contributing anything positive to the effort?

Or are you critiquing from the sidelines?

[slim]

Welcome to the Underground Steve.