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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2007, 10:50 AM NHFT »
Coming from a marketing point of view (and nothing else), I wonder if the message could be slightly different.  The media and many people, when they see the word "torture," are going to associate you with the far left, Cindy-Sheehan type radicals and they'll dismiss you (and ignore you).  In order to attract the most attention, I'd humbly suggest that you'd be less marginalized with a message like "Taxes are Evil"  or "Taxes are Wrong" or even (to connect with Dada), "IRS Employees work for Evil."

Just a suggestion.

Just my own two cents, torture is clearly wrong, and it is unfortunately now a part of a long history of abuses by the feds.  However, as a popular issue it seems to have come and gone, whether in actual practice or just being ignored by the media.

At any rate, I like the statement, "Taxation Is Theft".  It states THE point, is self-explanatory, and is never out of date.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2007, 11:02 AM NHFT »
luckily some of us are not effected by what is or is not a popular issue
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2007, 12:49 PM NHFT »
luckily some of us are not effected by what is or is not a popular issue

Of course not.  Taxes are evil (because taxation constitutes theft) regardless of the popularity of the issue.  The same goes for torture.

I see that I used the wrong word to try and make my point.  The word I should have used is current issue.  The only thing I was trying to point out is that if the goal is to open peoples' minds, perhaps one would not want to be seen as protesting against a thing of the past.  As far as I can tell, the Bush administration seems to have backed off on the use of torture at least for now, or else they are doing a better job of concealing it.  I was just trying to offer some food for thought, and I do not know for a fact that the anti-torture message will not resonate.

Perhaps I am misrepresenting the real purpose of the protest.  Can you or Kat clarify the purpose of the protest, or what you are ultimately hoping to accomplish by it?  (You and I already know each others' positions on the best approach to activism.  I will refrain from debating the merits of your approach; I just want to make sure I am not assuming something that is not true.)

I hope you do not perceive my input as antagonistic.  For better or worse, I appreciate the stand you are (both) taking.  If I saw your protest as being without merit, I would not offer any input at all.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2007, 01:37 PM NHFT »
The back of my sign says "taxes = theft", so I can switch back and forth.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2007, 01:40 PM NHFT »
I'm off tomorrow, so i'll be there. 
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2007, 01:46 PM NHFT »
Since the government is still torturing people ... the sign works for me.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2007, 01:49 PM NHFT »
I will be in my orange jumpsuit and black hood.

I think the Bush admin is backing away from torture .... because people have pushed the issue. No reason to stop until they stop.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2007, 02:14 PM NHFT »
Sent press release to Keene Sentinel, Concord Monitor, Union Leader, WKBK, WMUR, NHPR, Alex Jones.  Feel free to send anywhere else.  Caleb told Keene Police last night.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2007, 02:30 PM NHFT »
I doubt they'll care much, but I'm going to start working on my Congresscritters from NC (with a copy of the press release, too).

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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2007, 02:33 PM NHFT »
I called the Federal Protective Service # and told them that there was going to be a Don Quixote style attack on the Keene IRS building.

Kat thinks I used the wrong word "attack". She may be right.
I think they will figure out what we are doing after a while. :)
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2007, 02:48 PM NHFT »
Can you come pick me up?  I will attend and shoot video.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2007, 04:45 PM NHFT »
Because you used the word "attack", I doubt they will even let her in the front door of the lobby.
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2007, 05:15 PM NHFT »
Can you come pick me up?  I will attend and shoot video.

Sure, thanks :)
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2007, 08:29 PM NHFT »
Can't take anymore of this statist video I'm editing... I'm coming out to play.

See ya'll at the happening.  :)
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Re: More tilting at windmills
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2007, 10:22 PM NHFT »
Can't take anymore of this statist video I'm editing... I'm coming out to play.

See ya'll at the happening.  :)

Consider bringing a press identification badge.  It will be good having you there with me.   :icon_pirat:
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