Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 32

[JosephSHaas]

Operations man at there (U.S. Marshals, N.Y. 1-212-331-7070) to another man said to try BOP generic without the age as he might have had a birthday in the last few days.

Also they use White Plains* rather than Middletown** for Extradition Hearings.

* http://www1.nysd.uscourts.gov/site_whiteplains.php (press 2 for court then 1 for docs; $26.00 search fee required; try Eastern***)

** http://www1.nysd.uscourts.gov/judge_info.php?id=66

Result= _____________________________________________

*** http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/

for either: (1) Brooklyn, (clerk 1,2 Mr. says nothing found****) or (2) L.I. http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/General_Information/Court_Phone_Book/Offices/offices.html (intake - 2 Ms. says no info)

**** try north = http://www.nynd.uscourts.gov/

over to http://www.nynd.uscourts.gov/CourtAddress.htm

for http://www.nynd.uscourts.gov/CourtAddress.htm (press 8 = Ms. says no info.)

Back to N.Y. Marshals who gave me this "run-around"! _____________________

And who is calling? John Q. Public, We don't "give" out information (he hangs up).

Then HOW can I file an Amicus Curiae "Friend of the Court" Brief!?

Call back: Me to him: What's your name? He transfers me to Mr. ________ who says in effect: No to "The Buck Stops Here", You've got to call the U.S. Attorney's Office.*****

***** http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/index.html
to http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/contacts.html

212-637-2200 the woman there said the Baldasaro case is going to the Fed-South @ 212-805-0140 to call there for the case #__________ and details. NYC

US District Court Judge
ecf.nyed.uscourts.gov

225 Cadman Plz E # 640
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718) 260-2410
Get directions

http://www1.nysd.uscourts.gov/jury_travel.php?location=manhattan

tHE woman cLERK TO dEPUTY woman cLERK to Mr. Manager said no # yet so he's probably being held at either: (1) The M.C.C, or Brooklyn Detention Center.

I.) Metropolitan Correctional Center #__ Park Row, ________________ http://www.superpages.com/bp/New-York-NY/Metropolitan-Correctional-Center-L2065056603.htm of: Metropolitan Correctional Center

150 Park Row,
New York, NY 10007
(212) 836-6300 (= FAX!?)

2.) MDC Brooklyn, Metropolitan Detention Center, P. O. Box 329002, Brooklyn, N.Y. 11232 Tel. (____) _______________ http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/bro/index.jsp and http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityAddressLoc?start=y&facilityCode=bro (she has no info on a J.P.B. so to try MCC above)

Bottom: line: to write to: #1 above. - Joe

[JosephSHaas]

... Metropolitan Correctional Center

150 Park Row,
New York, NY 10007
(212) 836-6300 (= FAX!?) ....

Try 212-240-9656 ("Not in service at this time")

according to: http://books.google.com/books?id=nypWXkksfp8C&pg=PA271&lpg=PA271&dq=Metropolitan+Correctional+Center+Park+Row&source=bl&ots=UvrAhvYZfd&sig=G_DcIub-5GEoMh5qYx_0ctoITvk&hl=en&ei=wNQSSs-aMOfBtwf43uWMBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

[JosephSHaas]

Pastor gone to Heaven?

http://prisonministry.net/MCC

Sort of like: "Gone Fishing".

[JosephSHaas]

I feel like I'm taking over for the "Larry Glick" program on WBZ-Radio 1030 Boston. 

http://www.michaelsantos.net/index.html from http://www.google.com/ for:

MCC New York | Metropolitan Correctional Center* New York
The Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York has very little to do with ... Metropolitan Correctional Center, New York MCC New York 150 Park Row ...
newyorkmcc.com/index.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages -


http://www.michaelsantos.net/Feedback.html

Michael,

Do you have the MCC phone # for where to get the (required?) # to put on the envelope to him? re: Baldasaro (John P.) the un-official currency investigator for the U.S. Marshals here in N.H. arrested last week in New York. Thanks, - Joe

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* Here's a photo of the place: http://www.nychinatown.org/storefronts/chatham/150parkrow.html

[JosephSHaas]

I sent the packet out to J.P.B. this afternoon.  He should get it by this weekend.  So if/when he might have some Extradition Hearing he can use these legal bullets of info, and ricochet back to help E+E & 4.

[JosephSHaas]

Here's a re-type of my e-mail of today @ exactly 3:03 o'clock p.m.
"To: The Strafford County Delegates ....

This from page 80 of my Archives here IN SEARCH OF...Danny's  N.H. Supreme Court case #2007-0745 ...
Thus these five N.H. Supreme Court judges to go under a House/Senate Bill #_____ of Address, per Article 73 of The New Hampshire Constitution, ....

Photocopies of this given to: _______________ today.

See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/caljourns/calendars/2009/houcal2009_38.html

with details to follow-up tonight.   - - Joe

[JosephSHaas]

Here's a re-type of my e-mail of today @ exactly 3:03 o'clock p.m.
"To: The Strafford County Delegates ....

This from page 80 of my Archives here IN SEARCH OF...Danny's  N.H. Supreme Court case #2007-0745 ...
Thus these five N.H. Supreme Court judges to go under a House/Senate Bill #_____ of Address, per Article 73 of The New Hampshire Constitution, ....

Photocopies of this given to: _______________ today.

See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/caljourns/calendars/2009/houcal2009_38.html

with details* to follow-up tonight.   - - Joe

* Here's a copy and paste of my e-mail just sent:


House Address #1 of 2009.?
From:    Joseph S. Haas
Sent:    Wed 5/20/09 11:58 PM
To:    _____________________
Cc:    _____________________________________________
Bcc:    _____________________________________________
To: Rep. __________

Thank you for taking my paperwork from me this afternoon while at The Grappone Center in Concord for the Auto Dealers Meeting.

Upon a re-reading, from when I did originally write this, I can see what my father used to say of sometimes I cannot see the forest for the trees as being lost in the details and so I'll try to summarize here as in that fill-in the blank in the last paragraph on page 2 of 2.

What I'd like to see is you and a few other Reps who I did also meet today at the Wine Meeting too at the Holiday Inn please sponsor and co-sponsor an HA/ House Address #1 of 2009 before your session ends next month so as to get into hearings this Summer in July and August AFTER my Meeting with the RSA Ch. 451-B:1-23 State Board of Claims on this subject in my lawsuit there against the governor for his failure to assert his Articles 41 + 51 duties that he is "responsible" for to enforce all legislative mandates by the shall word in RSA 123:1. Hearing set for Fri., June 12th to where you're invited.

Four friends of mine from Texas, New York, Missouri (The "Show Me State") and Vermont came to the rescue of to prevent another "Ruby Ridge" in the Ed Brown case of he and his dentist wife contesting their federal AND state taxes.  Yes, you read me correct, in that the state could have gone after her: Elaine as per her license, but that our N.H. public servants decided to "buckle under" to the Feds, and which kneeling, or bowing thereto I find disgusting! Especially since it is both unlawful and illegal.

One of these four "Freedom Fighters", who like to be called The Freedom Four, even contested his incarceration at the county level, over there in Dover for Strafford County.  They/ the Feds by contract with the Commissioners there did keep him "on ice" so to speak, even when he had the "heat" in more than just a gun and bullets, but THE law! To wit: the last sentence in Article 12 of the N.H. Constitution, Part First & Bill of Rights.  Please read it, in that "Nor are the inhabitants of this state controllable by any other laws than those to which they, or their representative body, have given their consent."

He/ Dan Riley, from N.Y. (bcc: his brother Bill) filed his Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus with Judge Steve Houran there who used to be an Assistant A.G.  but was NOT given his Art. 14 "complete" remedy by way of a hearing to produce evidence. He presented the Bill Gardner certificate of Federal non-filing to RSA Ch. 123:1 but that the judge said in effect, so what!?  So WHAT!? So to IGNORE his RSA Ch. 92:2 oath to the law!? Article 12.  Yes, on June 14th, 1883 we gave Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 U.S. Constitution "Consent" to the Feds (when they were operating in Exeter and Portsmouth dealing in minor crimes of violations, but now with it having escalated to major crimes of felonies, well: we're to see to it that all i's are dotted, and t's crossed), but that said consent was and still is a "conditional" consent.

Upon the condition that it NOT be a "gift" but an "exchange" and even by their own law: 40USC255 they shall file, otherwise they have no jurisdiction.  No jurisdiction to pull Danny's appeal from the Supremes of N.H. to the Federal court too, but allowed by them, and so that's what I'd like to see is for you to initiate an HA against each and every one of them, plus as likewise done at the county level by Judge Burling and Judge McGuire, as noted, to please HA these 5+2 = 7 judges.

Plus see what I've found since last Tuesday being of just this past Monday, 5/18 of:  http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Misc/PressStatementSchulz9-16-03.htm from Bob Schulz, (who BTW I met at Ed's trying to peacefully resolve this like what Bo Gritz did in the Randy Weaver case) and in particular the info from paragraph #7 as in the copy and paste here of: "Listen to the words of the Supreme Court; "In view of 40 USCS 255, no jurisdiction exists in United States to enforce federal criminal laws, unless and until consent to accept jurisdiction over lands acquired by United States has been filed in behalf of United States as provided in said section, and fact that state has authorized government to take jurisdiction is immaterial." Adams v. United States (1943) 319 US 312, 87 L Ed. 1421, 63 S. Ct. 1122. (Quoted from U.S. statute 40 USCS 255, Interpretive Note #14, citing the US Supreme Court).

In other words, whether our "consent" was either a gift OR for an exchange, the fact that nothing was filed, gives them no jurisdiction OVER us, and so when the state judges overlook this Article 12, it's time for the spotlight of the law to be put to them, and if not by an Impeachment, then AT LEAST by an Article 73 House Address.

Would you and the other two Reps, getting a cc of this who I did also meet today by chance PLEASE file such legislation.

Thank you, - - - - - - - - -  Joe / Joseph S. Haas, P. O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 also at: JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com ...."

[JosephSHaas]

Here's a re-type of my e-mail of today @ exactly 3:03 o'clock p.m.
"To: The Strafford County Delegates ....

This from page 80 of my Archives here IN SEARCH OF...Danny's  N.H. Supreme Court case #2007-0745 ...
Thus these five N.H. Supreme Court judges to go under a House/Senate Bill #_____ of Address, per Article 73 of The New Hampshire Constitution, ....

Photocopies of this given to: _______________ today.

See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/caljourns/calendars/2009/houcal2009_38.html

with details* to follow-up tonight.   - - Joe

* Here's a copy and paste of my e-mail just sent:

House Address #1 of 2009....

My local Reps for where I live ("legal" and seasonal) plus work have been notified by e-mail of a forward of this blanked-out e-mail.
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For Gilmanton:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/whosmyleg/whosmyresults.asp

Rep. David Russell http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376294        9:33 a.m. &

Sen. Kathleen Sgambati http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/members/senate04.asp   9:06 a.m.
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For: Boscawen:

Rep. Claire Clarke http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376315     9:20 a.m.

Re. Jennifer Coffey http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376804     9:22 a.m.

Rep. Joy Tilton http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376633   9:25 a.m.

Rep. Priscilla Lockwood (no e-mail contact, to deliver a copy to her, in person) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376244

Rep. Frank Tupper http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=372532     9:26 a.m.

Rep. Deborah Wheeler http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376728    9:28 a.m.

Sen. Harold Janeway http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/members/senate07.asp  9:30 a.m.
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For: Concord:

Rep. Michael Bartlett http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376793     9:09 a.m.

Rep. Candace Bouchard http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376201   9:11 a.m.

Rep. John DeJoie http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376450   9:14 a.m.

Rep. Rbt. Williams http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376642   &   9:15 a.m.

Sen. Sylvia Larsen http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/members/senate15.asp  9:17 a. m.
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footnote: to meet with Reps. Russell and Tupper at 1:00 p.m. in Room 305 L.O.B. for their Resources, Recreation & Development Committee today.

[JosephSHaas]

I've also sent this e-mail by forward to Ed's Reps in Dover for District 6 being:

Rep. Roland Hofemann http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376476   10:21 a.m.  Labor Committee

Rep. Rbt. Lewis http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376834   10:22 a.m.  Municipal & County Gov't

Rep. Mark Ryder http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=376859         10:23 a.m.   Criminal Justice  &

Sen. Amanda Merrill http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/members/senate21.asp   10:25 a.m. Education, Election Law, Energy, Wildlife Room 105-A, SH, 271-7803, H 868-2491

[JosephSHaas]

When the General Court member (Senator or Rep.) gets un-busy in July AFTER they see what happens with my June 12th hearing, then the aide just told me that the member will then represent this to Legislative Services (1st floor State House) to be worded into an SA or HA or combination of the two, using similar language to the Paul Mirski HA of Year____ against Brock, and so maybe for these hearings of an Address against the Supremes and these other judges in August. -- Joe

P.S. It's too bad that neither Ed nor Elaine presented a claim to the RSA 541-B:1-23 Board for their "False Imprisonment" so that they could be heard as more damaged than me of: yes, when your family and friends do go to jail, they are not the only ones that suffer, as it back-fires, and for the governor here to "suffer default", as in his FAILure to assert his Art. 41+51 duty to enforce all legislative mandates by the "shall" word in RSA 123:1 to which he took an RSA Ch. 92:2 oath to honor 1-8-17 of the U.S. Constitution, and beyond the mere offer of jurisdictional authority to the Feds as only one step in this two-step process, because as they say: "It takes two to Tango", and not by a gift but for an exchange, and backed up by 40USC255 and that U.S. Supreme Court case.

footnote: the next quarterly meeting of The Board after June, will be on Sept. __, 2009; maybe that is WHEN Ed & Elaine's case will be heard AFTER the HA #1 of 2009 in August? As I told the aide, it's not a matter of "if", but "when" this truth be finally dealt with, and by who and where?

[DonnaVanMeter]

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/auto_racing/Tax_charges_dropped_against_Castroneves_20090522#idc-container

Castroneves Charges dropped! Made a little comment, thought maybe your 2 cents could be thrown here, Joe.
thanks

[JosephSHaas]

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/auto_racing/Tax_charges_dropped_against_Castroneves_20090522#idc-container

Castroneves Charges dropped! Made a little comment, thought maybe your 2 cents could be thrown here, Joe.
thanks

Been there, done that; (;-) "one minute ago"; here's the copy and paste:

"· 1 minute ago
Who was he supposed to have conspired with? Here in New Hampshire in the Ed Brown case, one of the Freedom Fighters to the rescue to prevent another "Ruby Ridge" was and still is: Cirino Gonzalez from Texas, who also had a hung jury on a part of his case too. He's fighting at the root cause, and will win it for the rest of all victims EVER processed through the N.H. court, and that includes Steve Swan. Check it out for the list for every state over at http://wwwconstitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm thanks to Attorney Lowell "Larry" Becraft of Hunstville, Alabama, a good-ol boy from the F. Tupper Saussy days of "The Main Street Journal" and the book: "Miracle on Main Street". Reference the "Consent" word in Art. I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution, and how every state does offer this to the Feds. In N.H. the Feds are supposed to file their paperwork with the Secretary of State by RSA 123:1. Did they? No! Plus there's a U.S. Supreme Court case that reads that an offer if not 40USC255 accepted is not a completion of the contract, as it takes two to tango. (;-) The Feds dance-shy here and also in Massachusetts as no Sec. of State filing there either, nor in Florida at the governor's office. I know, because I checked all three places, plus Maine has yet to "give" them a constitutional grant of authority as by an Amendment to their Constitution BELIEVE IT OR NOT! And that give word being NOT a "gift", but for an "exchange." Never happened, thus no offense; but found guilty because the judge is crooked; he REFUSED to enter this into evidence for an exhibit for the jury to weigh, the appeal currently in Boston for the First Circuit. Stay tuned for news that is chopping away at the roots here to hear the loggers yell: TIMBER when THEIR "conspiracy" of THE Feds is exposed! In other word to turn the tables topsy turvey against their George Orwellian "1984" double-talk that is a lie as they SAY they have jurisdiction but MUST prove it! And especially in Missouri: The "Show Me" state from where yet another victim came from withOUT them checking into it either before, during or AFTER the fact as I've contacted them to "correct", but with NO reply: they'd prefer these victims be "corrected" so-called at the FCI's that is one big joke! Obama, if you're reading this, it's time for some Executive Clemency by way of to Commute the Sentence and pronto. Thank you for being the check and balance of change against the status quo that doesn't want to budge from their lies! They are the "militant" ones. Look that word up in your dictionary, of those who use force as their evidence, as opposed to the certificate of federal non-filing! (;-)

[JosephSHaas]

Here's a re-type from memory (and more) of what I did just TRY to post over there at that WISH TV dot com BETA Channel 8 of Indianapolis, Indiana contact 317-923-8888 but that did wipe out on me as I was typing from either an internal device within the program to erase replies as too long, but I think not as the first line was left to stay, and so I think it some moderator restricting me to only the "P.S. Sorry for the typo, withOUT the dot after the 3 w's."  Putting this in place by a copy and paste from here to where their readers can get to here for the details below, so as not to clog the space over there? http://nhunderground.com/forum/index/php?topic=3868.8565 No; I think that would wipe out too, because I'll bet that the moderator might have already corrected with the dot after the 3 w's? to http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm

I did also provide hyperlinks to the 40USC255 at http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?citeid=393575 and Bob Shultz's web page of: http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Misc/PressStatementSchulz9-16-03.htm with that U.S. Supreme Court case of: http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Misc/PressStatementSchulz9-16-03.htm and the wording of: " Listen to the words of the Supreme Court; "In view of 40 USCS 255, no jurisdiction exists in United States to enforce federal criminal laws, unless and until consent to accept jurisdiction over lands acquired by United States has been filed in behalf of United States as provided in said section, and fact that state has authorized government to take jurisdiction is immaterial." Adams v. United States (1943) 319 US 312, 87 L Ed. 1421, 63 S. Ct. 1122. (Quoted from U.S. statute 40 USCS 255, Interpretive Note #14, citing the US Supreme Court)." but that I guess that and to the N.H. links too just overwhelmed them! Re: RSA Ch. 123:1 of http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/IX/123/123-1.htm from http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-IX-123.htm and http://www.state.nh.us/ and telling about Danny's case to the N.H. Supreme Court since he was denied an Art. 14 "complete" hearing in Superior Court http://www.nh.gov/constitution/constitution.html of actually NO hearing, and so to Art. 73 http://www.nh.gov/constitution/judicial.html for to either an HA or SA, House of Senate Address #1 of 2009.  And if the House, then by House Rule 36 to have the Rep. endorse the Art. 32 petition with their signature and District #, to then have the House Speaker process it over to the appropriate committee by House Rule #4; or to be Rules 15, 16 + 17 filed and processed into and through the Senate.  A re-type of this from the 2007-08 book later, as the 2008-09 book has yet to be printed, although it can be found in House Record or Journal #__ to try to find for a copy and paste in a few minutes.

The summary being that a State Senator's aide is interested in having their Senator do this, as by Rule 16 to "endorse", to then Rule 17 part first "deliver" to "the Office of Legislative Services" for to finalize the language for their signature again, whereupon it goes to the Clerk to be entered into the Record or Calendar for by Rule 15 the Senator at the appointed day and time makes a "brief statement" about it to be "received and read" into the record, and then back to Rule 17, part last because if a bill or resolution it can NOT have a "public hearing" if presented during an "adjournment", and so that is WHY something ought to be done fast! in similar fashion for this Petition.

The "Last day to FORM Committees of Conference" to hammer out the differences in getting certain House or Senate Bills amended is: Wed., June 10, 2009 (2.5 weeks from now), onto the following week of Thu., June 18th @ 12:00 noon for the "Last day to SIGN Committee of Conference Reports" onto the following Thursday of June 25th as the "Last day to ACT on Committee of Conference Reports", and so with that day of 6/25 as the last day when the House and Senate will be there for this Legislative Session, then for that Rule 15 introduction to be made then so that it can proceed onto these HA or SA #1 "public hearing(s)" that can take place in early July at the SAME time that Ed's case is on-going in federal court to be THE state check-and-balance against these Federal outlaws!

Me also trying to put into that Channel 8 website the fact of beyond this procedural due process of law by the 5th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution, that the substantive is what I did learn from Otto Skinnner and Martin J. "Red" Beckman, when the latter came to the state here back in the 1980s running for President with his info-mercials on Channel 9 WMUR-TV in Manchester during the game-show hour, that got all of us (including Ed and myself where I first met him) to The Highway Hotel Meeting Room there on Fort Eddy Drive in Concord (where HANNAFORD Supermarket is located now) for Red's meeting and selling of his books. Me buying the Blacked-Robed Mafia one, and with Otto's info too did win the IRS case against me in Case #M.83-50-D at the U.S. District Court in Concord at the then James C. Cleveland Building only with Chief Judge Shane Devine, and Magistrate Wm. Barry in that as a landlord that section (5) of the I.R. Code was already declared unconstitutional, and so that statement by McAuliffe to Ed's jury that the entire Tax Code has been declared lawful was in-correct! and if he knew it: a lie, plus afterward my Affidavit of such presented to the court, but that because I was not a party to the case, the Deputy Clerk Dan Lynch returning it to me who I did give to Ed & Elaine, but that they never did enter such into the record then, (nor now?) but will do so? (future tense?) as in this latest trial? Furthermore TRYing to add in to nip it in the bud or any and all comments of like: pay your taxes, to which I referred back to the enabling law to being with in the 16th Amendment of "to lay and collect".  To lay meaning to either apply or impose by dictionary definition, and the government always wanting to go the impose route down that path to mean to levy = to collect, and so to collect and collect!?  That's redundant George Orwellian "1984" and "Doublespeak", as against our right to use the King's English by the Nineth (9th) Amendment and thus to apply as in a request, to which I reply: request DENIED!  Especially since there is no Enforcement Clause #2 in the 16th as there are in the surrounding ones. So there! to all of "you people" wanting to be part of The Sheeple to your own destruction! Give if you "want" to, as a volunteer, but that it is not a "need", and the local, county and state "public servants" of ours have an RSA Ch. 92:2 duty to protect us. See http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/VI/92/92-2.htm and Articles 12 + 38.  The last sentence for the former of: "Nor are the inhabitants of this state controllable by any other laws than those to which they, or their representative body, have given their consent." and the first sentence of the latter of: that frugality word meaning what is needed, but not wanted.

- - Joe

[JosephSHaas]

It got posted (but not corrected within the first comment); here's the copy and paste:

" less than 1 minute ago
P.S. Sorry for the typo, withOUT the dot after the 3 w's that should be http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm (I should have used the copy and paste). Plus I did add more to this reply for to answer any and all future questions and comments, but so as not to clog the page here, have put that into my Reply #8568 on page 572 over at http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=38... to where you're all invited to read the details and prevent this from happening to you. Good luck Helio in the race for another glass of milk, and if you're ever in New Hampshire, please drop by."

- - Joe

footnote: say what!? Who's the monkier over there? I did not type in this "Gun Control Does Not Prevent Violence" link to that Guest of 2004 comment. Is there a hacker to the Channel 8 website?  Maybe some gov't agent?  Or did the Moderator do this? Maybe I did another typo? Now anybody who gets to there has to jump over yet another hurdle.  Thus my reply to the Guest to re-direct to over here...

[JosephSHaas]

Now it's working! No need to add that reply to Guest of 2004.

Mod: Now I see what's happened: the blue highlight ends at #38 and then the three black dots.