Letter from Lauren!!!!

[Michael Fisher]

It is like the Boston Massacre, which was more symbolic than anything else as an escalation of a conflict against the state. Regardless of what really happened at the event, afterward people were willing to openly die for the cause of liberty.

But with our nonviolent movement, the state is only in conflict with its own stupidity and the consent of the governed.

[error]

I'm afraid it might take a massacre before people start waking up.

[Russell Kanning]

we can't wait 4 others 2 wake up ... we have 2 do it ourselves

great letters from lauren

[Michael Fisher]

Agreed.

[KBCraig]

Am I understanding correctly from these letters that they're essentially holding her in jail at this point for "offenses" she's committing in jail?

No. The people at the jail don't have any say in how long she's held. She's suffered punishment for violating jail rules while in jail, but the judge is the one who sent her to jail and is keeping her there.

[eques]

What degree of massacre will it take before people "wake up"?

I don't have the brainpower left right now to cite examples, but it seems to me that the United States government has been responsible for or complicit in a tremendous number of human deaths, certainly many times over the worst of the worst mass murderers.

I think that a lot of people just shut their eyes to it... if it doesn't affect them directly (or even if it does, in the case of soldiers dying on the battlefield), they just don't think about it.

[Lloyd Danforth]

What degree of massacre will it take before people "wake up"?

I don't have the brainpower left right now to cite examples, but it seems to me that the United States government has been responsible for or complicit in a tremendous number of human deaths, certainly many times over the worst of the worst mass murderers.

Read some fucking history.  You are wrong, many times over!   While the U.S. has  conspired or joined in ongoing wars that resulted in millions of deaths,  and our foriegn policy has resulted in many more,  we barely hold a candle to Pol Pot and Hitler, much less Stalin & Lenin.

[eques]

What degree of massacre will it take before people "wake up"?

I don't have the brainpower left right now to cite examples, but it seems to me that the United States government has been responsible for or complicit in a tremendous number of human deaths, certainly many times over the worst of the worst mass murderers.

Read some fucking history.  You are wrong, many times over!   While the U.S. has  conspired or joined in ongoing wars that resulted in millions of deaths,  and our foriegn policy has resulted in many more,  we barely hold a candle to Pol Pot and Hitler, much less Stalin & Lenin.

Sorry, it was late.  You're right.  I should have gone with just capital-G Government instead of restricting it to the United States.  But what was in my mind when I said "mass murderers" did not include the likes of politically-enabled murderers such as Pol Pot, Hitler, et al.  I was thinking about the relatively small-time serial killer-types.

Like I said, it was late.

But my question still stands, doesn't it?  What degree of massacre will it take before people actually "wake up"?  Maybe they're just beginning to, but we've had thousands of years of massacre, with perhaps the most egregious occurring over the past 150 years or so, and people are still asleep at the wheel.

[Kat Kanning]

Read some fucking history.  You are wrong, many times over!   

Nice.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Thank you

[Dreepa]

Thank you

Cranky today?

[FTL_Ian]

Read the recent letters on-air.   

[John]

Read the recent letters on-air.   

Thank you for that!

[Michael Fisher]

Thank you

Cranky today?

He's congenitally cranky.

[eques]

I remember when I used to think that "congenital" was a very, very naughty word.

Now I realize that it just means "with genitals."

What a relief!