Registering to vote

[Russell Kanning]

The government wants you to register to vote .... and doesn't ever want to take your name off the list.
Does that tell you anything?

[dawn]

You can still show up at the polls, vote NO on the ever-present tax increase and write your own name in for every office if you feel there is no worthy candidate!

People who believe in small government MUST vote in each and every election to help turn back the tide of socialism. If only the liberals showed up to vote, imagine how terrible and invasive the laws would be!!

Definitely agree that writing in worthy candidates is the way to go in voting. You are not stuck with bad candidate A and bad candidate B - write-in someone who will make a positive difference and vote the way you would want them to vote.

It does not matter if the winner with 51% of the votes cast claims that they have a mandate of the people. Point out how false that is. The # of registered voters is grossly inflated as well - look through the list sometime and see how many people are registered to vote at your address or at your neighbors house. They only have to clean them up every 10 years so there are tons of old registrations on the checklists.

[Russell Kanning]

If only the liberals showed up to vote, imagine how terrible and invasive the laws would be!!

That is a very interesting idea. How bad would the laws .... and overall government be ... if no decent people voted at all?
Most people already try to not be part of that process .... in small elections hardly anyone shows up ... and those that do are mostly government employees.
What if none of us showed up on their election days?

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Things would get a lot worse before they got better, because most everyone would assume (with or without reason) that the election was legitimate.

[Russell Kanning]

They make lots of laws that we don't vote on already .... they make decisions without our input. I don't know if it would get any worse at the start.

Since we have been trying it the other way (having some people vote ... sometimes having a lot of people voting), how about we try it the other way once and see how it turns out short term?

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Okay, I won't vote tomorrow.

[Russell Kanning]

Me either.

Why would anyone be voting tomorrow?

[Quantrill]

The problem is 30% voter turnout is considered good.  Even if it was 5%, hell even if it was 2% these people still get to say "we have a mandate from the voters".  And they'll be right because anyone who refuses to vote is saying they're ok with whatever happens.

Of course many non-voters don't look at it that way.  'If there's no one to vote for then I just won't vote' only makes it EASIER for these people to get away with stuff.

Imagine - 20,000 liberty-loving people showing up at the polls on election day.  Wait, that's been thought of before... 

[Russell Kanning]

I have seen votes with lots of turnout and basically none ....... the government seems to go about its business no matter what.

[powerchuter]

The problem is 30% voter turnout is considered good.  Even if it was 5%, hell even if it was 2% these people still get to say "we have a mandate from the voters".  And they'll be right because anyone who refuses to vote is saying they're ok with whatever happens.

Of course many non-voters don't look at it that way.  'If there's no one to vote for then I just won't vote' only makes it EASIER for these people to get away with stuff.

Imagine - 20,000 liberty-loving people showing up at the polls on election day.  Wait, that's been thought of before... 

I choose not to vote...
Voting is part of the illusion of those around us who desire to impose their ideas, values, and morals upon others using aggression, mob-rule(democracy), and threat of bodily harm, imprisonment, and death.

I own myself...completely...and no other person has any supposed "jurisdiction" over me...
Live Free or Die!

Isn't it telling that so many people have a double standard for "taking at gunpoint"?
When it's done by person(s) without the community blessing they're called thieves...
But...
When it's done by person(s) with the community blessing they're called law enforcement officers...
You know...jack-booted thugs, storm troopers, Nazi SS, Waco Killers, FBI, CIA, BATFE, etc.
How many different flavors of aggression do we need?
I say "none of the above"...

Unintended Consequences by my friend John Ross
Henry Bowman and "V" would make a kick-ass team!

Hey Claire, It's way past time!

[lastlady]

So no vote for Ron Paul?

[powerchuter]

So no vote for Ron Paul?

I support Ron Paul 200 percent!
I will be promoting Ron as much as I can!
I think what he has chosen to do is very admirable.
He will lead new people to the liberty and freedom movement.
It would be great if he became President except that the criminal elite have proven repeatedly that they will assassinate any president that doesn't "behave".

But...
No...
I will not be personally "registering"(asking permission) to vote...

[Quantrill]

bummer.



































  We sure could use your vote.

[lastlady]

So no vote for Ron Paul?

I support Ron Paul 200 percent!
I will be promoting Ron as much as I can!
I think what he has chosen to do is very admirable.
He will lead new people to the liberty and freedom movement.
It would be great if he became President except that the criminal elite have proven repeatedly that they will assassinate any president that doesn't "behave".

But...
No...
I will not be personally "registering"(asking permission) to vote...

I can understand and respect not wishing to ask permission by registering to vote. I feel that change does not happen in the voting booth but in the hearts of women and men and through direct action and a consciousness shift.

I go back and forth on the desire to step in a voting booth, my heart in the end feels it is futile and part of the matrix that keeps us in the illusion.

But... I really wanna see Ron Paul win the primaries and I believe it IS possible. 

[KBCraig]

I choose not to vote...
Voting is part of the illusion of those around us who desire to impose their ideas, values, and morals upon others using aggression, mob-rule(democracy), and threat of bodily harm, imprisonment, and death.

I assume you've heard the phrase, "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"?

Well when votes are the weapon of choice, your best chance for surviving the fight is to arm yourself with a vote, and encourage others do do likewise.

Voting does not have to mean participating in mob-ocracy. Voting against every spending proposal, voting against every big spender, voting for privatization and repeal of laws, etc., all serve to dis-empower the mob. That's not ruling by mob, that's self-defense!

Which is more effective: to yell and moan and wave protest signs about the latest imposition of the Mob? Or to cast a vote that stops the Mob?

You can say that your vote makes no difference at the federal level, and you might be right. You can say that your vote makes no difference at the state level, and there's room for disagreement. But you can't say in NH that your local vote makes no difference, because the local level is where spending and taxing are completely intertwined.

If CACR-18 (the "educational adequacy" amendment to the NH Constitution) manages to pass, then local votes will indeed become meaningless. NH will become like every other state, where people scream and yell and protest at local meetings, but the local officials shrug and point their fingers at the state. "We can't help it," they say, "because the state says we have to spend this money."

Do not give up local control. If you refuse to vote, you agree to be ruled by those who do.

Kevin