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Grassroots beginning to the Free State Party

Started by Russell Kanning, January 04, 2009, 11:57 AM NHFT

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Kat Kanning


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Russell Kanning

if you want to make it happen, then you choose the time

Mike Barskey

One of the volunteers has made the first Free State Party T-shirt (actually a "Vote No" shirt, but with "TheFreeStateParty.com" at the bottom). It's not "Don't Vote," but "Vote No" is a pretty good philosophy: if everything the government tries to do is voted down, the government does nothing. :)

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Quote from: Russell Kanning on January 18, 2009, 10:18 PM NHFT
if you want to make it happen, then you choose the time

I will party tomorrow night. Perhaps some people will join me. :)

dalebert

Quote from: Mike Barskey on January 18, 2009, 11:21 PM NHFT
One of the volunteers has made the first Free State Party T-shirt (actually a "Vote No" shirt, but with "TheFreeStateParty.com" at the bottom). It's not "Don't Vote," but "Vote No" is a pretty good philosophy: if everything the government tries to do is voted down, the government does nothing. :)

Voting IN a broken system is voting FOR a broken system. There is no such thing as a "no" vote. They are all "yes" votes.

Tom Sawyer

Ok I guess we can mark Dale down in the category of No, no means Yes, yes!

Russell Kanning

I guess Dale will not be joining us. I understand. I didn't help start the party for people such as yourself. :)

Mike Barskey

I don't know about that. First: I agree with him. Voting no still implies that your vote should have control over others (what about the people who want the vote to be yes?). I think true freedom and voluntaryism means not voting to control others, either with a "yes" or a "no" vote. Second: He didn't say he wasn't interested in joining the Free State Party, he just described his view of a "no" vote. Assuming he is interested, are there other ways he can participate?

Russell Kanning


AntonLee

he COULD still campaign and at the very least help someone who was a voluntaryist who ran for some job in order to push for elimination of the government. 

Mike Barskey

Right. Are there other things a volunteer can do besides vote "no?"

Russell Kanning

I wasn't telling dale to vote. I wasn't thinking he should join our party.
Others will want to join, who want to practice radical politics.

Dale's t-shirts are different

Mike Barskey

Quote from: Russell Kanning on January 20, 2009, 07:45 PM NHFT
I wasn't telling dale to vote. I wasn't thinking he should join our party.
Others will want to join, who want to practice radical politics.

Dale's t-shirts are different

I misunderstood. But I may have misunderstood Dale, too, so I'll let you two hash it out. :)

Mike Barskey

Irony: The ad at the bottom of this thread at the moment is for www.vote-nobody.com