Freedom to Travel Event, Part 2

[Pat K]

I was just thinking the same thing.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Exciting as this is I have to go out and work on my Damn truck!

[Michael Fisher]

Nah, Dave was last active 16 minutes ago, so he's probably typing something right now.

[Michael Fisher]

Nah, Dave was last active 16 minutes ago, so he's probably typing something right now.

did that just change from 8 mins to 16 mins???

Maybe Phil is using dave's account?

Yeah, I double-checked and changed it.

[Dave Ridley]

Alright...just got done talking to the agents for another 15 minutes.  They indicated to me that they had not heard from russell because they can't get their cell to work out here.   He's probably left them a message.

Now that I have russell's permission i have given them his number at work and the name of the company where he works and they are headed there.

The agents indicated to me a desire to establish some degree of trust, I told them I appreciated that but didn't so much appreciate that they had told me they were with "a company in Portsmouth" at first.   Phil indicated to me that his reason for doing that was to protect russell from the spectacle of agents publicly identifying themselves as such to individuals who might take it out on russell.    That seems like a fair explanation and I accept it.   

One of them asked me if there were a lot of porcupines here when he saw the porcupine sign on kat's door.   I said do you mean the kind that look like that or the kind that look like me?   He said huh? I told him what "Porcupines" were.   He had heard of the FSP.    Mark Alford asked me a lot of questions about whether there was anyone in the group that was violent and what I would do if I heard someone planning to do a Tim McVeigh type thing.   I told him we'd been lucky so far and that the closest thing we'd ever had to that kind of problem was zack, that the Supremacist types who've stumbled into our ditch always seem to run away in short order.  But I said it's been a long term worry of ours that we would eventually attract someone needlessly violent like that and pay a high price for it.  They asked me about our philosophy which I indicated varies quite a bit from person to person but mainly centers around the idea that government exists to protect us from each other and should do little else.

I'm not sure this was the right thing for me to do but one agent asked if he could have permission to come into the house to use the restroom.  I told him you do not have permission to search the house but using the restroom is a fundamental human right; you do have permission to do that.   I think that is what Gahndi or Jesus would have done but can't be sure it's what Kat or Russell would have done... I hope I may be forgiven if not!

The second agent's name is Mark Alford also from the Boston division but based in NH.    They are probably arriving at russell's work place around now.  They exressed a strong desire to keep a low profile so as not to disturb russell's workplace situation but I told them half the people at his job probably already know what's up

BTW the agents first arrived at about 12:30 PM.

[Russell Kanning]

I called and left a message on their phone to contact me tomorrow, since today is my last day at this job.

[Dave Ridley]

any press releases that go out....should ideally have a link to this discussion

[Michael Fisher]

Beverly from the Associated Press just called and I talked to her for about 3 minutes about this.

Baggs!  I have to go pick someone up from the airport!

I'll be back in a few hours.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Dave, you should work at becoming a little less forthcoming.  No need to volunteer stuff about Zack, or, subjective fears about a possible violent member.  Ours is about as non-violent movement as could exist.
Lloyd

[YeahItsMeJP]

Thank you Dave for the update. I agree with Lloyd, if there are none currently involved, then the answer should have been "no, we have no violent members". Just my two cents.

JP

[Kat Kanning]

Re:  letting the FBI into the bathroom:  pretty much the first thing you see as you go in there is Albert Jay Nock's Our Enemy the State 

[Pat K]

Re:? letting the FBI into the bathroom:? pretty much the first thing you see as you go in there is Albert Jay Nock's Our Enemy the State?

Well I guess thats better than Send in the Waco Killers-

[YeahItsMeJP]

I concur!

I remember when I was going through FBI questioning for some stuff awhile back, they were very disturbed by my copy of Unintended Consequences.

JP

[Kat Kanning]

The Concord Monitor article is in the Keene Sentinel today.

[Kat Kanning]

Can't be too long ago!  He's such a youngin'