Grassroots beginning to the Free State Party

[Russell Kanning]

Ad that the Prez and I produced for Morey. A slightly modified version was run on cable for his campaign.

Morey might be a little extreme for us, but we could take a chance.

[Russell Kanning]

I'm going to run for Empress.     If elected, I will subjugate the masses in a kinder, gentler manner, feeling their pain and toasting marshmallows in 1000 points of light.

yikes
I think I saw the white lady's face from Lord of the Rings.

[Lloyd Danforth]

since we don't do politics on this forum .... should we discuss this on the NHLA's forum, or would we we too radical? They might not be able to endorse our candidates, since they are so closely tied to the republicans.

The first thing I thought of when I started to read this thread was "Gee, ya think the NHLA would actually endorse or give money to a political candidate promoting *true* liberty?" 

I think discussing this on the NHLA forum is a delightful idea.     Also open to other suggestions.

I've taken care of this.

[toowm]

I'm going to run for Empress.     If elected, I will subjugate the masses in a kinder, gentler manner, feeling their pain and toasting marshmallows in 1000 points of light.

[Friday]

I'm going to run for Empress.     If elected, I will subjugate the masses in a kinder, gentler manner, feeling their pain and toasting marshmallows in 1000 points of light.

yikes
I think I saw the white lady's face from Lord of the Rings.

"In place of the Dark Lord, you would have a Queen, not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Dawn. Treacherous as the Sea! Stronger than the foundations of the earth...all shall love me and despair! "

Yes, that will make a most excellent campaign speech.   

[Russell Kanning]

"let them eat cake" is demure in comparison

[Russell Kanning]

The first thing I thought of when I started to read this thread was "Gee, ya think the NHLA would actually endorse or give money to a political candidate promoting *true* liberty?" 

I think discussing this on the NHLA forum is a delightful idea.     Also open to other suggestions.

I missed this post until Lloyd quoted it.

I don't want to discuss the FSParty's business here. It is probably not welcome on the FSProject's website. I don't want to put ask Kat to make me another forum. Maybe the NHLA's forum is ok ... or maybe they will boot us later. I don't know. I like Strike-the-Root, but it is not connected to NH.

If someone wanted to crank up a website, that would be great, but until then we could talk about it somewhere.

What do you guys think?

[Pat K]

Man the party is not even up and running and already
power is corrupting.

[Pat K]

I'm going to run for Empress.     If elected, I will subjugate the masses in a kinder, gentler manner, feeling their pain and toasting marshmallows in 1000 points of light.

yikes
I think I saw the white lady's face from Lord of the Rings.

"In place of the Dark Lord, you would have a Queen, not dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Dawn. Treacherous as the Sea! Stronger than the foundations of the earth...all shall love me and despair! "

Yes, that will make a most excellent campaign speech.   

[Russell Kanning]

PatK can find us our campaign posters.

[Lumpy]

Now THIS is my kind of party!   

[error]

Did I wake up in the wrong universe? ???

[Lumpy]

Did I wake up in the wrong universe? ???

Didn't all of us do that?

[BagOfEyebrows]

that will be up for a vote from the Party's headquarters in Grafton, NH

another will be secession during 2009 or 2010

other proposed line items?

I can't join the political party, but I like the idea.  Some suggested platforms to add to secession (which I strongly support):

1. the drawing up of a constitution that is independently/individually subscribed to that doesn't seperate government and law (a system that was brought over from England - it's total crap.  The biggest dingleberry in the USA government.)

2. constructing a volunteer type government, with no more payments/pensions, and very short terms, although not neccesarily any term limits for volunteers.


3. constructing a form of government that keeps current promises made to those already in the 'system', as self protection is a biological force, and without honoring payments to those who got into things for personal financial security, there would be immediate (and huge) resistance... put in a 'keep promises already made' part, though, and some might warm up to the idea (as long as their own security isn't threatened.)  At least we'd know down the road, after those 'paid performers' age out/die, freedom and liberty would prevail.

4. adding a preamble that strictly outlines the role of government (as the Massachusetts state constitution did) of ONLY being a protector of the natural rights (not manmade rights) and self evident truths.

5. figuring out the rest of the 'among which' part of natural rights - I have already figured out one of the puzzle pieces ... the right to one's own charity (and/or the right to one's own good will towards mankind) - putting that one phrase into the natural rights section of the constitution would have eliminated a gigantic amount of the insanity we've gone through these past few hundred years, as it literally defines the difference between a constitutional republic/individual responsibility community and a socialistic society.  It also keeps the 'human connection' that charity/volunteering is in its compassionate and sustainable place.

Personally, I think they left it out to keep the court systems alive and well - conflict of interest you get when a bunch of lawyers get together to draw up a constitution, be it state or federal.  I have a love/hate relationship with John Adams - I want to wrap my mouth around him, but at the same time, I want to punch him right in the face and knee him in the groin for leaving out the right to one's own charity (because I'm almost positive HE KNEW.)  He's lucky he's dead, but when I die, he will be confronted by me to explain why he did that to mankind.  Jackass.

6. I think the Free State Project might get a little concerned about a political party being named after them when they cite on their website they aren't about political parties.  I think Mr. Sorens would get kinda... mad?  Or maybe just concerned.  I agree an alternative to the Libertarian Party is long overdue, though.  I will never be a member of the Libertarian Party again after their antics during this last election (and some heated emails and long phonecall discussions with LP heads.)  And I completely agree with the no compromises part, no matter how radical it appears or sounds - Volunteer Party?  I dunno - anything but Free State Party, I guess.

There's my ideas, anyways.  Hope it makes some sense in between the ramble of it.

[BagOfEyebrows]

Did I wake up in the wrong universe? ???

Didn't all of us do that?

lol  

right universe, wrong timeframe - wish we'd all been around during the founding of this nation.  But maybe that's why we're here now.  To form The Shire?  Chance to get it right.