Armed defense?

[leetninja]

He also bragged about doing you the favor of not bringing your system down.

actually - i didnt ... what i said was that if i were a vindictive person, less honorable, or a jackass etc.  I didnt threaten nor would i bring anything down.  Do I have the skills to do so? yes.  Would I? No

[Lloyd Danforth]

It is and continues to be an implied a threat.

[Ryan McGuire]

For the record, I don't recall leetninja ever saying he would rape anyone, merely he was asking if someone would use armed defense against a rapist. It didn't come across to me as a threat at all, and completely on topic. I for one, would shoot someone attempting to rape someone.

As for the comment leetninja said about  bringing down the forum, deleting databases, deleting backups etc, THAT came across to me as a threat. Are you in the habit of making detailed lists of things that you are NOT going to do leetninja?

This thread is beyond destroyed. oh well.

[leetninja]

It is and continues to be an implied a threat.

well gee - saying I DID NOT MEAN IT THAT WAY AND WOULD NOT DO THAT - SEVERAL TIMES - would seem to imply that it is not an effing threat!  Maybe if my post explaining that hadnt been REMOVED SIX TIMES this wouldnt be an issue or thrown in my face in such a twisted way?

[leetninja]

For the record, I don't recall leetninja ever saying he would rape anyone, merely he was asking if someone would use armed defense against a rapist. It didn't come across to me as a threat at all, and completely on topic. I for one, would shoot someone attempting to rape someone.

As for the comment leetninja said about  bringing down the forum, deleting databases, deleting backups etc, THAT came across to me as a threat. Are you in the habit of making detailed lists of things that you are NOT going to do leetninja?

This thread is beyond destroyed. oh well.

quite simply i was pissed when i wrote the comment and didnt realize until a while later how it may have come across ... i apologized - i explained that i wouldnt ever do that - i explained how it was meant ... that *SHOULD* be enough ... i dont know why it is being held onto so tightly ...

it wasnt a very detailed list ... but i can come up with some detailed lists of what i do not intend to do if necessary yes ... i mean what do you want me to say to this that i havent already said*

*some posts have been removed ...

[Mike Barskey]

Or maybe, leetninja, despite the content of what you said, you said it in the same tone as so many of your recent of your posts, which comes across to me as very rude. You're seeming like a jerk, to me. I do realize that people have an online persona that is often very different from their real one (I do). I also know very well that reading someone's words misses a lot of information (e.g., vocal tone, body language, gestures, facial expressions) and thus a lot of what is intended to be communicated does not get communicated well or at all. Knowing that, I think that what I've read of your posts makes me think you're acting like a jerk (again, I'm not referring to the content of what you're saying, just how you're saying it). Russell, for example, seems to me to be very calm and polite, as do some others in this thread.

[leetninja]

For the record, I don't recall leetninja ever saying he would rape anyone...

that is because I DIDNT.  I have even messaged Kat to let her know that is not what i said and gave her the details of that post

it was a scenario a scenario b thing in reference to russell basically saying that nonviolence was the solution to all problems - to which i posed two scenarios and asked him doesnt he have a limit before he reacts n a potentially violent way?

[leetninja]

Or maybe, leetninja, despite the content of what you said, you said it in the same tone as so many of your recent of your posts, which comes across to me as very rude. You're seeming like a jerk, to me. I do realize that people have an online persona that is often very different from their real one (I do). I also know very well that reading someone's words misses a lot of information (e.g., vocal tone, body language, gestures, facial expressions) and thus a lot of what is intended to be communicated does not get communicated well or at all. Knowing that, I think that what I've read of your posts makes me think you're acting like a jerk (again, I'm not referring to the content of what you're saying, just how you're saying it). Russell, for example, seems to me to be very calm and polite, as do some others in this thread.

so i cant really say anything you just said about readying words misses a lot of information vocal tone, gestures, etc ...

if someone, anyone wants to read into my words and see hostility they will - if they want to see calm and polite they will, if they want to see anger and frustration they will, if they want to read comedic relief they will and the list goes on ...

who am i to tell anyone how to read things?  quite simply - i cant.  i have explained, and re-explained things but i can not make people read a certain way.  i dont tend to use a lot of emoticons or *lol*s on forums. 

i certainly didnt mean to come off as an ass here.  i just cant change how people CHOOSE to read emotionless text.

[Kat Kanning]

WHAT IF I raped your wife in front of you?  What Russell said leetninja posted was a hypothetical, not that he was about to do it.   I never saw the post.  I don't know what happened to the other post leetninja says has been deleted.

[leetninja]

WHAT IF I raped your wife in front of you?  What Russell said leetninja posted was a hypothetical, not that he was about to do it.   I never saw the post.  I don't know what happened to the other post leetninja says has been deleted.

i did NOT say WHAT IF

i messaged you about this ...

i have posted what the comment was several times.

i gave him two scenarios

i specifically had one scenario with a cop and then i said something like ... lets say the other one is just some jackass that does the same thing and decides to rape your wife in front of you ...

i never said what if, i never said i would, is this post recoverable because having words shoved in my mouth that i would never say is really starting to piss me off

[leetninja]

im really not sure where you are going with this ... i didnt say that i think your way of life is useless.  in the right circumstances it is great.  dont you get pushed too far at some point?

if someone decided to come to your home and just search and seize your belongings with the intent to take what they want how exactly would you non-violently not co-operate when that person pulls a gun and says "sit down and shut up or ill shut you up" and proceeds to take your money, firearms, etc?  Lets go with double scenario even ...

first person that does that is a Kop ... how do you non violently not cooperate with him?  how are you planning on preventing him from taking your belongings that he had no right to take to begin with?

the second is just a jackass that also decides to throw in raping your wife while you watch ... so really how do you remain non violent through something like that?  same questions as above plus the obvious add in question about him and your wife.

maybe if it hits closer to home you will think differently?

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=4640.0

FOUND IT

and now that i have ... seriously ... come on ... i cant scream WTF loud enough right now ...

[grasshopper]

( Martok, Head of the Klingon Empire) "How can we fight the Borg if we are feeding on ourselves".
  If we are to be assimilated, do we resist or become borg, good question.
  If we fight with bows and arrows, are we as bad as them who use flashbands and an entry team of 5 highly trained police officers of spec. ops. troopers?
  If we throw stones, will we be able to say we resisted tyranny?
  If we do not risist, aren't we agreeing with the tyrant? 
  There is one way to get political power, and that is by the barrel of a gun.  I do know 1 thing though.  It will be the police officers and the military fighting amongst themselves first before it comes to door to door confiscation of firearms.  If I have to, as a porquepine, I'll use my quills if I have to, for I don't want to feed the wolves with my flesh or freedom.
  If it comes to violence, the only way to win a fight is to "become" the federal government as we are supposed to be.  As for war plans?  it is not something I know about or want to know about.  If you are recruting fighters for your revolution, keep me out of it, I'll do my part, praying.
  Ed

[erisian]

FOUND IT

and now that i have ... seriously ... come on ... i cant scream WTF loud enough right now ...

Didn't you ever play 'telephone' when you were a kid?  Same shit, different day.
The blame for the misunderstanding here goes to whoever deleted the original post(s), IMO.

[leetninja]

Didn't you ever play 'telephone' when you were a kid?  Same shit, different day.
The blame for the misunderstanding here goes to whoever deleted the original post(s), IMO.

Agreed.  in every which way.  i found a quote as you can see of the post that i actually made.  i did not do any of this stuff i am being accused of ... its pretty much spun out of control at this point.  im really not sure what else i can do or say here that will make any difference. 

my posts being removed, my name being smeared, and the ridiculousness of this situation really has me rather pissed off.  i havent really decied 100% what to do about it so i dont really have much more to say right now.

[Bill St. Clair]

i havent really decied 100% what to do about it so i dont really have much more to say right now.

Ignore it, and it will go away?