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Started by Quantrill, March 30, 2007, 07:29 PM NHFT

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Russell Kanning

see .... the guys who work for the government want you to vote.

Lloyd Danforth

I'm guessing that the average bureaucrat is ambivalent about voting, generally ignorant about politics, and, only pays attention when their union or superiors warn them about something effecting their jobs or budgets.

Dreepa

Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on April 03, 2007, 06:49 AM NHFT
I'm guessing that the average bureaucrat is ambivalent about voting, generally ignorant about politics, and, only pays attention when their union or superiors warn them about something effecting their jobs or budgets.
except at the town level.

KBCraig

Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 03, 2007, 05:48 AM NHFT
see .... the guys who work for the government want you to vote.

For those of you who missed it, this guy who works for the government wants you to vote to reduce and eliminate as much government as possible.

Russell's "confirmation" is disingenuous at best.

Russell Kanning

insulting and accusatory at least...
verifiable and undeniable at most...
unbelievable and unimaginable at worst...
disreputable and disputive and disruptive and dis......

error

Voting could be useful in some circumstances to slow the bastards down.

FTL_Ian

Consider crossing this paragraph out on your registration form (I did!):

QuoteIn declaring New Hampshire as my domicile, I am subject to the laws of the State of New Hampshire which
apply to all residents, including laws requiring me to register my motor vehicles and apply for a New
Hampshire?s driver?s license within 60 days of becoming a resident.

dawn

Quote from: KBCraig on April 03, 2007, 02:17 AM NHFT

Well when votes are the weapon of choice, your best chance for surviving the fight is to arm yourself with a vote, and encourage others do do likewise.

Voting against every spending proposal, voting against every big spender, voting for privatization and repeal of laws, etc., all serve to dis-empower the mob. That's not ruling by mob, that's self-defense!

Which is more effective: to yell and moan and wave protest signs about the latest imposition of the Mob? Or to cast a vote that stops the Mob?

You can say that your vote makes no difference at the federal level, and you might be right. You can say that your vote makes no difference at the state level, and there's room for disagreement. But you can't say in NH that your local vote makes no difference, because the local level is where spending and taxing are completely intertwined.

Do not give up local control. If you refuse to vote, you agree to be ruled by those who do.

Here, here! This is the way things are done at this point - not voting is exactly what "they" want.

Start sarcasm:
Hey, wouldn't it be great if all the freedom lovers believed that their vote didn't count or that it was force or (insert some negative idea here) and they decided to stay home and NOT VOTE???!!!! Wouldn't it be great it we got them to waste their time putting forth arguments for why voting is good, why voting is bad, etc. Distract them from the real issues, you know?? Oh, who am I kidding, those freedom lovers would never fall for that, would they????
End sarcasm

Important votes can be won or lost by ONE VOTE! I don't see how someone who loves freedom can sit back and let an candidate who will protect your rights be beat by a candidate who will gleefully take your rights away. Or how a person who loves low taxes can sit back and let another huge spending increase pass without saying NO.

We don't live in a perfect world - we must play the game by the rules (more or less) and work to change the rules.

Kevin Bean

Quote from: KBCraig on April 03, 2007, 10:03 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 03, 2007, 05:48 AM NHFT
see .... the guys who work for the government want you to vote.

For those of you who missed it, this guy who works for the government wants you to vote to reduce and eliminate as much government as possible.

Russell's "confirmation" is disingenuous at best.


Kevin....we all know how Russell looks up to you. You might have hurt his feelings with that comment.


eques

Quote from: KBCraig on April 03, 2007, 02:17 AM NHFT
If you refuse to vote, you agree to be ruled by those who do.

That's a false dichotomy.  I think that is a large part of what "beyond ballots or bullets" is all about.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: dawn on April 04, 2007, 02:02 PM NHFT
Here, here! This is the way things are done at this point - not voting is exactly what "they" want.
In some ways you seem right. Government folks don't want their enemies to show up to vote. But when it really comes down to it ... the whole government promotes voting ... tells you it is your duty .... tries to make it easy for you to sign up. In fact .... I still have not been able to get my name off of the list.

This thread has inspired me to keep going back to get of the voter rolls and chronicle the saga in the paper. :)

Quote
We don't live in a perfect world - we must play the game by the rules (more or less) and work to change the rules.
I agree we live in an imperfect world, which is the reason I shouldn't play by its rules.

From Jesus:
"Do not be surprised, brethren, if the world hates you."

"If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."

from Paul:
"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind."


error

As I've said before, it might be tactically useful to vote in some limited circumstances, but as an overall strategy, we aren't going to vote ourselves free.

EJinCT

Personally, I have never voted. The simple fact is that I have yet to see a candidate worthy of voting for.

The way I see it, with the political sytem at present, it really matters little in the end if one votes or doesn't vote, as it come down to the lesser of two evils. Dem vs. Rep. I dont' feel either party truely has the welfare of it's constituents in mind.


Quantrill

Regardless of the candidates, why aren't some of you voting to strike down the ever-present tax increases?  That is one area where you do have a say in how tight your chains are.  Ignoring these ballots doesn't diminish the "prepared-food tax" or whatever else is taxed in NH...

d_goddard

Quote from: EJinCT on April 04, 2007, 05:47 PM NHFT
The simple fact is that I have yet to see a candidate worthy of voting for.
That's what the NHLA is for... finding which are good, and which are "least-bad", and which are just bad, bad, bad.

I dare you to tell me a guy like Dick Marple isn't worth voting for, after you've chatted with him for a few minutes.
And of course there's Rep. Joel Winters... who moved all the way from California to New Hampshire so he could work to reduce the size and scope of government.