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Started by Michael Fisher, April 11, 2005, 12:01 PM NHFT

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Kat Kanning

Some guy in Swanzey got tasered for watering a lawn...but I think the police mostly objected to the hose he was using  :o  :o

Michael Fisher

Quote from: katdillon on September 12, 2005, 04:26 PM NHFT
Some guy in Swanzey got tasered for watering a lawn...but I think the police mostly objected to the hose he was using? :o? :o

Were they jealous? ;)

Kat Kanning

I bet you're right!  There must have been a bit of envy going on there.

Russell Kanning

so why does the government not want you to water your lawn?

Michael Fisher

Quote from: russellkanning on September 12, 2005, 05:39 PM NHFT
so why does the government not want you to water your lawn?

There has been a "level 4 water ban" in Newmarket for a long time, maybe even since before I moved here.  All outside water use is banned.  You have to water your garden or wash your car with a small container of water.  Some people secretly use their sprinklers at 3am, but generally tolerate the law.

The Exeter Newsletter recently had an article claiming the ban is killing our local gardening, plant, and hardware businesses.  The Town Manager wants to keep the ban permanently.  Paraphrasing him, "I don't see why we need to change it."

This is the same town that wants to build a new $30,000,000 school and scrap the existing one, spend over $8,000,000 on road construction to make our town look more like downtown Moscow, ::) and build a multi-million-dollar water treatment plant, just incase.

They want to "keep up with the Jones" and have services equivalent to nearby towns that have 3 times the population of Newmarket.    ::)

Ugh.  Don't get me started...  :o

FTL_Ian

LR6, you've done it again.  This sounds like a gread mass CD idea.  Are there other porcs in Newmarket who would participate?

Pat McCotter

Install a gray water tank (basement or back of house and direct all rain gutters to it. Direct the overflow to a normal drain path away from the house. Use this water for those times when you need it. Size the tank as you see fit.

As an aside, I was walking through Concord at the end of August to read meters. It was raining and there was one business' automatic sprinklers working.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: LeRuineur6 on September 12, 2005, 09:39 PM NHFT
Quote from: russellkanning on September 12, 2005, 05:39 PM NHFT
so why does the government not want you to water your lawn?

There has been a "level 4 water ban" in Newmarket for a long time, maybe even since before I moved here.

why .... don't you pay for the water?
what is this vegas or something? water restrictions in NH :o

Russell Kanning

Quote from: LeRuineur6 on September 12, 2005, 09:39 PM NHFTThis is the same town that wants to build a new $30,000,000 school and scrap the existing one, spend over $8,000,000 on road construction to make our town look more like downtown Moscow, ::) and build a multi-million-dollar water treatment plant, just incase.

onion domes ..... big pictures of government leaders .... military marching around .... the works?

Michael Fisher

Downtown Moscow:


Looks just like Burlington, VT.   :o

Michael Fisher


tracysaboe

That's the problem with socialism. In this case, city-wide water socialism. If private entities competing in a free market were providing water and sewage services, then there wouldn't be a water shortage. Rates would rise and lower and supply and demand changed.

In other words, in a free market Fisher would be perfectly free to water his lawn. It would just cost him about twice as much money. -- Actually id would probably be about the same, because private companies don't have all the beurocratic largass that government sponsored monopolies have. Plus the competition would drive prices down ones it was free-marketized.

Tracy

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: LeRuineur6 on September 13, 2005, 05:01 PM NHFT
Downtown Burlington, VT:



Looks like downtown anywhere in America around Chanukah time, including Monterey, CA if you take away the slush.

Dave Ridley

Here's another civil dis idea I had...two weeks late and 2,000 miles too far away but worth keeping in mind for future...

Go to a new orleans entry checkpoint with a gun and the intent to deliver it to one of the disarmed residents.  Then tell the media and the authorities in advance you're going to do it, when and where.   

Maybe too late to do it for N.O. (and I'm not willing to go that far and miss a week of already scheduled work) but perhaps it's something we could do in this area if needed.   

Kat Kanning

http://www.periodico26.cu/english_new/world/gitmo170905.htm

  Increased Number of Hunger Strikers at Guant?namo

Washington, September 17 (RHC)-- The number of hunger strikers at the U.S. Naval Base in Guant?namo has increased, as 11 more detainees have now joined the protest action. The strike began over one month ago and currently involves 131 detainees, according to Major Jeff Weir, a spokesman of the prison camp.

Twenty-one protesters were hospitalized at the prison's clinic due to their deteriorated health and, according to the spokesman, 20 of them are being administered saline solutions.
The prisoners are protesting their indefinite detention, noting that many of them have been held for more than three years without any charges being filed against them. Some have even threatened to starve to death if they are not released or brought to trial.

According to officials at the naval base, located in eastern Cuba and illegally occupied by the United States, the strike began last August 8th by 76 detainees, but in the course of one month, the number of strikers has increased and now involves over one-fourth of the nearly 500 detainees there. However, human rights groups place the actual number of strikers at 210 -- nearly one hundred more than the official U.S. figures.

Human rights organizations have long denounced what they call a "legal limbo" for detainees at the Guant?namo Naval Base prison, without even being given the right to a lawyer.

The strikers want to call public attention to their precarious conditions at Guant?namo, as well as constant torture and humiliations they are subjected to by U.S. soldiers.