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Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 20

Started by CNHT, July 24, 2007, 04:55 PM NHFT

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error

No activity, huh? So that's why the police didn't bother to investigate a complaint of gunshots?

Everyone here knows that cops lie, even to the press, and especially in court. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. But there is a possibility that someone other than the cops was responsible for last night's activity.

What we need is a smoking gun...

Insurgent

http://www.wmur.com/news/13776502/detail.html

WMUR video story stating that frantic calls to police department last night kept 911 calls from going though

AlexLibman

Quote from: Insurgent on July 29, 2007, 09:05 PM NHFTWMUR video story stating that frantic calls to police department last night kept 911 calls from going though

That'll be the least of their problems if they (and the feds) don't drop charges against the Browns.

kola

When Danny Riley was shot at running down the driveway ( and later tasered) were they any calls to the police from nearby residents?

Kola

kadar

Quote from: Insurgent on July 29, 2007, 09:05 PM NHFT
http://www.wmur.com/news/13776502/detail.html

WMUR video story stating that frantic calls to police department last night kept 911 calls from going though

I'm not sure how you guys have your 911 system setup. Our 911 calls go to a regional dispatcher then out on the airwaves to the necessary units. 911 and the local emergency number have nothing to do with each other.
So I call hogwash.

Insurgent

Latest coverage from the Union Leader:

http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Brown+callers+clog+911+lines&articleId=bf37d016-da9d-430b-8ed5-de9e2c139fb1

Brown callers clog 911 lines

By KRISTEN SENZ
Union Leader Correspondent
2 hours, 15 minutes ago

PLAINFIELD – Supporters of convicted tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown reported online and in radio broadcasts that multiple semi-automatic gunshots were fired in the woods behind the couple's Plainfield home late Saturday night.

About 60 calls coming from all over the country clogged emergency telephone lines at Hanover dispatch until around 6:30 a.m. yesterday, Plainfield Police Chief Gordon Gillens said. A second dispatcher came in to help handle the call volume.

"They totally disrupted emergency services by putting all that stuff on the Internet and giving out all these phone numbers to call," Gillens said.

Brown supporters also claimed someone had been physically shaking the trailer that houses Jim Hobbs, who is staying on the Browns' property, and theorized that federal agents were trying to provoke a violent clash, according to posts on the Browns' blog.

U.S. Marshal Steve Monier said yesterday that no law enforcement officers were at the Browns' residence over the weekend.

"I don't know anything about it," Monier said. "It's not us, we're not there."

Monier has repeatedly said he wants to avoid a violent confrontation with the Browns and resolve the situation peacefully.

Plainfield residents living near the Browns said there were no disturbances Saturday night, Gillens said.

"It's a complete fabrication," he said. "There was absolutely no report from anyone up there that there were fireworks or firearms or anything like that." Plainfield police are investigating whether the disruption at the dispatch center amounted to a criminal act.

The Browns assert that federal income taxes are unlawful and part of a Freemason plot to control the masses. They were convicted in January of felony tax evasion and sentenced to more than five years in prison in April.

They have remained at their home since then, avoiding capture, and vow to defend themselves with deadly force if federal agents try to apprehend them.

On the Browns' blog, www.questforfairtrialinconcordnh.com, supporters said they heard between 30 and 40 rounds fired behind the house around midnight Saturday. In a pod cast of a radio interview posted on the site, Brown supporter Danny Riley, 39, said everyone at the Center of Town Road residence was on high alert until dawn.

"Everybody heard the gunshots," he said. "Nobody's hunting at 12 midnight in the back of the woods, you know?"

Riley said supporters at the house were positioned at "battle stations," including one supporter using night-vision goggles to scan the woods from inside a lookout tower.

"This is it. This is it," Riley said during the interview, breathing heavily. "This is the beginning€¦ Enough is enough." Riley said he's prepared to die for the Browns' cause. "I don't know what else to say. I'm lost for words. I'm sweating bullets. I'm wrapped in bulletproof vests, I've got helmets on, and I'm sweating bullets. I've got a guy in the tower. We're ready to go."

Web posts on various sites urged supporters to call local, county, state and federal law enforcement agencies and "Tell them the world is watching!"

Monier said he had no contact with the Browns over the weekend and that his office was not conducting surveillance at their house.

"There's no presence from the marshal's office or any other law enforcement agency up there, other than routine patrols by the Plainfield Police Department," he said. "I don't know what they're talking about."

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Russell Kanning

I am sure the 911 system in plainfield missed alot of calls at midnight saturday night.
I didn't call them ....because I do not want to get involved with the evil government people in plainfield ... they are not there to help the Browns. They are there to protect the government.

talk about monkeywrenching .... I love it

error

I'm sure he doesn't know who's sending me harassing messages, either.

Also, the DOJ bureaucrats have started their morning reading about 20 minutes ago.

Romak

Havent posted in a while kind of tired of following this circus. Just wanted to add something to this if thats ok. Hasnt anyone taken into consideration that this whole think could've been some kids popping off some fireworks in the woods just to get a rise out of the Browns. Or maybe just some kids drinking out in the woods like kids normally do lighting off some fireworks for fun.  Unless you have a trained ear a lot of fireworks sound like automatic gunfire. I can pretty much tell what caliber is being fired by the sound and there are still weeks during July when fireworks sound the same to me from a distance. Do you honestly believe the Marshalls office would waste their time firing some rounds in the woods? If they really wanted to they would just rush the place and take them all out albeit with casualties Im sure. Like Monier has said for months, they have all the time in the world to wait them out. Why on earth would they put some guys in the woods and fire off some rounds just for fun? Its a pretty simple assault really. How many guys do the Browns have in their? Possibly 10 at most. Its not too hard to get the location of all of them from the sky. The Feds Im sure have silencers, and if they wanted they could easily take out half of them before the Browns knew what hit them and than just wait the others out while the gas fills their house. But they arent going to do this because its not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is wait them out which they are doing quite well. The people at that home seem to be crying wolf a lot, one of these times no one is going to listen.

Romak

Sorry forgot to thank Kola for going on here every hour and giving me negative Karma. Must be nice to have so much free time on your hands.

error

Quote from: Romak on July 30, 2007, 09:01 AM NHFT
Hasnt anyone taken into consideration that this whole think could've been some kids popping off some fireworks in the woods just to get a rise out of the Browns. Or maybe just some kids drinking out in the woods like kids normally do lighting off some fireworks for fun.  Unless you have a trained ear a lot of fireworks sound like automatic gunfire.

I said exactly the same thing earlier in this thread. I did not, however, display such a bad attitude about it (which I won't make anyone read again).

As for the marshals, the right thing for them to do is to admit to themselves that they can't do the right thing and fulfill the requirements of their job, and so to resign.

coffeeseven

Quote from: error on July 30, 2007, 09:13 AM NHFT
As for the marshals, the right thing for them to do is to admit to themselves that they can't do the right thing and fulfill the requirements of their job, and so to resign.

The right thing is subjective. Every last one of them probably thinks they're doing the right thing. What a shame.
Killing people over money is wrong no matter what "authority" they think they have.

JosephSHaas

Quote from: armlaw on July 25, 2007, 06:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on July 25, 2007, 03:17 PM NHFT
What's happened to Joe Haas?

You are not reading me?  I posted several days ago that Joe is spending some time with his mother in Tallahassee.

1. Jet Fuel. Yup. The very day you asked this Kat, I was flying back to Manchester, and had no problems: re: my inquiry to there a while back for some jet fuel, if you'll remember for some molotov cocktails, the lady security officer calling Gary D. to check me out as harmless in that no rags were to be attached to any such bottles as this is against the statute that might be unconstitutional, but to have Ed or somebody maybe test out this theory, not me. [Ref. page 336 here, see also p. 328 + 329 for 7/17 + 7/18 too, thanks].

2. The Florida statute. While in the capitol city of Tallahassee I also called the governor's office there for Gov. Charlie Crist @ 850-488-7146 and -4441 about WHERE, if any, are these Florida Title II, Chapter 6.04 papers from the Feds, per their 1845 statute on page 4 of the 2006 book, as like comparison to the N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 ones, see pages 12 + 13 of 89 for where I found this for Florida at http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm that Henry* says we need more people in other states doing what Ed has done here with the certificate from N.H. Secretary of State's Bill Gardner that the Feds are in a non-filing status withOUT any jurisdiction!

3. The Florida Div. of State Lands. The Florida governor's office told me to call Archives at 245-6700 that I did on 7/16,Mon. too with a relay over to the State Library @ 245-6683 where Cathy said to call back and then said to contact the Division of State Lands @ 245-6687 where on Friday 6/20 I talked with Joe Knetsch, the book author who said that his office is open from 8-5 M-F except the lunch hour 12-1, and the vault closes at 4:30 p.m. so this is to WHERE the Feds might find the evidence to have marked as an exhibit IF anybody ever challenges jurisdiction down there, as the "burden of proof" is NOT on us trying to find such a document, but me just helping the Feds on WHERE to find it, IF any receipt be lacking in Federal Archives.

Yours truly, - - Joe H.

P.S.

(1) The Public Utilities Commission (3% telephone tax) To file an appeal from the P.U.C. to the N.H. Supreme Court within thirty (30) days of their 7/5 letter and 7/10 e-mail correspondence, that even though their counsel only gives "opinions" for the PUC Directors to make the ultimate "decision", I canNOT seem to get a hearing there unless they are forced to give me this "due process" rights as from the governor getting an "opinion" for such from the N.H. Supreme Court and ordering this agency to comply with the law, to decide what the Plainfield Selectmen should decide too, as:

(2) SHOW-CAUSE HEARING. See my comment #___ in today's http://www.unionleader.com story of the Saturday night "firecrackers" in that I wrote: "The Police asked the Selectmen for help.  The Selectmen asked the Marshals to visit for a meeting.  The Marshals refused.  Isn't it about time we go ONE STEP BEYOND the asking to that of a "Show-Cause" Hearing this Wed., Aug. 1st @ 7 PM Plainfield Town Hall whereby the Marshal Monier ought to show-cause WHY he is NOT in contempt of the U.S. Constitution, and in particular Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 17 as there are NO N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 papers on file! as required by the law and statute.

pc 1: Stephen R. Monier, U.S. Marshall with this CITIZEN ORDER that you appear at this Selectmen's Meeting Wednesday night to show-cause, otherwise be in default, the proof in  the possession of the Town by way of both Bill Gardner's and David Scanlan's certificate copies that there has been no RSA 123:1 filings by the Feds, and so protection to be afforded the Brown's by both the Town and County; plus State Police. The Browns having paid over $7,000 every six (6) months for such, for #__ years, but when the shit hits the fan, as they say: well, for the Town and County: it's: like duck and cover!

pc 2: The N.H. State Police too, with my donation of: $1.00 to a special protection fund for the Browns for them to set up at some bank, not needed though, because the Browns too through their ATT Corp. of the Dental Practice used to pay the State Corporations taxes too, but gave up when they thought, what has now been confirmed, that there would be no state-protection from the State against the Feds either, a situation I intend to change by the start of my contribution to this either special fund, or the General Fund, via the State Treasurer, etc.

* So if anybody here from Florida would like me to be a witness, or to try to find this Fla. Ch. 6.04 filing, if any, like to prove that IF Florida files such, as evidenced, WHY can't N.H. and the other #__ states likewise comply? just let me know, for a return visit to see my mother and other brother. It's not as hot down there in the Summer as I had thought it would be. Maybe sometime next month at the earliest and after the Tue., Aug. 7th arraignment over at the Newport District Court, for them to get a piece of my mind on this other jurisdiction issue! The trial to set for: _____________? And maybe instead of flying down by plane, to take the train, with stop-overs in the states of: ______________________ where we could investigate their Archives for information or non-information too. Best wishes to the truth seekers!


Recumbent ReCycler

An odd coincidence today was that in the Union Leader there was a story about the Browns and another story about a shortage of dentists in NH.